Math object that returns 0 at k=0, 1 at k>0?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a mathematical object that returns 0 when k=0 and 1 when k>0, particularly in the context of summation notation and integration by parts. Participants explore various functions and their applicability to this requirement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a Green's function or a Kronecker delta, noting that no smooth function will satisfy the requirement.
  • Another participant clarifies that they do not need a smooth function and explains their context of summing boundary terms in integration by parts, indicating a need for the sum to be zero when n=0.
  • A later reply proposes using the expression 1 - kroenecker_delta(k,0) as a potential solution.
  • Another participant mentions that the construction is typically referred to as a unit step or Heaviside step function, providing a link for further reference.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate mathematical object to use, with no consensus reached on a singular solution. Multiple approaches are suggested, indicating ongoing exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on the definitions of the functions discussed and the specific context of their application in integration by parts.

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Hello,

I'm using summation notation (from k=0 to n) and would like a mathematical object to:

return 0 when k=0
return 1 when k>0

I messed around with binomial coefficients but couldn't make it work. It's probably trivial, but I couldn't find it after much googling.
 
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You could use a Green's function, or a Kronecker delta, but these are nonstandard functions. No smooth function will do what you want. Why do you need it?
 
Definitely don't need anything smooth. I am trying to write out integration by parts to the nth derivative of the function g, and I am trying to sum up the boundary terms that pop out of higher n's. I want to be general enough to allow for n=0, which would mean there is no boundary terms and would need the sum to be killed off. Is there a simpler way to do it than:

kroenecker_delta(0,kroenecker_delta(k,0))
 
DocZaius said:
Is there a simpler way to do it than:

kroenecker_delta(0,kroenecker_delta(k,0))

I was thinking of 1-kroenecker_delta(k,0)
 

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