I know this is a little off base but I thought I would bring up a strange question. We have always been using math by using the symbols of numbers. Is there a math using objects instead and how would one create this type of math? I believe it is what we need in order for people having a hard time with math. Not to go into a long drawn out explanation about human thought processes, but I think thoses that have holistic thinking can benifit from this type of math. If fact help those with creative side of the brain to understand math instead of being so frustrated from it and giving up. Thank you for your thoughts.