Mathematical representation and its implication in physics.

In summary: In other words, the choice of representation does not have a direct impact on the theory. This is a complex and subtle subject, but basically it comes down to this: a physical theory is valid only insofar as it predictions the results of experiments; if the mathematical model used to describe the system is adequate to do so, then no change in the model is required to account for experimental evidence.
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my post i really about discussing the difference that a mathematical representation does to physics.
for example, let's take for example a system which can be be represented by quaternions and by complex numbers.

if we can represent a physical theory by quaternions which aren't commutative as oppose to complex numbers, does it have an impact on the theory itself?
or in other words we can represent a physical theory by distinct mathematical appraoches which aren't the same and in someway even contrdict each other, then which representation should we approve?
does ockham's razor should put to the test here?
 
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It had better not! A physical theory stands or falls by its experimental evidence. If using one mathematical model rather than another results in a change in experemental evidence then one model was wrong. If neither model suggests an experiment that the other would fail, then they have no differential effect on the theory and are equivalent models.
 
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loop quantum gravity said:
my post i really about discussing the difference that a mathematical representation does to physics.
for example, let's take for example a system which can be be represented by quaternions and by complex numbers.

if we can represent a physical theory by quaternions which aren't commutative as oppose to complex numbers, does it have an impact on the theory itself?
or in other words we can represent a physical theory by distinct mathematical appraoches which aren't the same and in someway even contrdict each other, then which representation should we approve?
does ockham's razor should put to the test here?

If the complex numbers, as such, are adequate to describe the physical system, then quaternions cannot be appropriate, precisely because the physics must obey the commutative law in order to be satisfactorally represented by the complex numbers, in the sense that calculations with them can reproduce what happens in experiments. The quaternions, with their non-commutativity, would predict a different set of outcomes.

Now this is complicated because you can represent non-commutative physics using either quaternions or matrices of complex numbers. But those matrices are non-commutative among themselves, and in fact there is a mathematical equivalence (isomorphism) between the quaternions and certain matrices of complex numbers, so no contradiction arises.
 

1. What is mathematical representation in physics?

Mathematical representation in physics is the use of mathematical equations, models, and symbols to describe and explain physical phenomena. It allows us to quantitatively understand and predict the behavior of various systems and phenomena in the natural world.

2. Why is mathematical representation important in physics?

Mathematical representation is crucial in physics because it provides a precise and quantitative way to describe and understand the laws and principles of the physical world. It allows for accurate predictions and calculations, and it also helps to uncover new relationships and patterns in nature.

3. How does mathematical representation impact our understanding of physics?

Mathematical representation plays a significant role in our understanding of physics by providing a framework for organizing and analyzing complex physical phenomena. It allows us to formulate and test hypotheses, make predictions, and ultimately gain a deeper understanding of the fundamental laws and principles that govern the natural world.

4. What are some common mathematical representations used in physics?

Some common mathematical representations used in physics include algebraic equations, calculus, vector notation, and differential equations. These tools allow us to describe and analyze various physical quantities such as position, velocity, acceleration, and force, among others.

5. Can mathematical representation be used to solve real-world problems in physics?

Yes, mathematical representation is an essential tool for solving real-world problems in physics. It allows us to model and analyze complex systems and phenomena, make predictions, and test theories. It has been instrumental in advancing our understanding of the physical world and has numerous practical applications in fields such as engineering, astronomy, and mechanics.

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