Maths, ROTE and suffering at university

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of learning mathematics at the university level, particularly focusing on the perceived reliance on rote memorization versus deeper understanding. Participants share their experiences and strategies related to various undergraduate math courses, including calculus and linear algebra.

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  • One participant expresses frustration with the rushed pace of university math courses, feeling that it leads to rote learning rather than intuitive understanding.
  • Another participant suggests that while some concepts must be learned by rote, practice problems can reinforce understanding and retention of math definitions.
  • A different viewpoint highlights that the university system may not prioritize teaching but rather provides opportunities for self-directed learning, emphasizing the importance of independent study and problem-solving.
  • One participant mentions the availability of an "honors" option in math sequences, which focuses on theoretical understanding and proofs, potentially offering a more satisfying learning experience for those interested in deeper comprehension.

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Participants generally agree on the challenges of learning math at university and the limitations of the educational system. However, there are competing views on the effectiveness of rote learning versus practical problem-solving and the role of professors in the learning process.

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Participants express varying assumptions about the nature of learning in university settings, the effectiveness of different study methods, and the availability of alternative course options. There is no consensus on the best approach to overcoming the challenges discussed.

mrcleanhands
I picked maths up because I thought it would improve my ability to problem solve - but I found maths at university to be far from what I expected.

With all my undergrad subjects like calculus II, multi-variable and even linear algebra everything feels rushed and I have a very hard time getting an intuitive understanding of all the concepts. Often I'm then forced to ROTE learn some definitions and concepts. This realllyy really frustrates me because it's just something you can easily forget much later. I've spent countless hours reading extra on sites likes betterexplained.com but it's still not easy.

Other people in my class don't seem to care, say the understand it or say I'm just over-analytic and it doesn't matter.

Anyway, just wanted to know what other peoples experiences are etc as I'm thinking about dropping it as it's simply a huge workload and a lot of it is forcing me to ROTE.
 
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Some things you have to learn by rote (you can't derive your name or birthdate from first principles), but having done so, the best way to reinforce the acquisition of math definitions and concepts is to do practice problems. By doing a variety of problems and applying math concepts, this will help you to retain your understanding of the subject while you are continuing to learn it.
 
Unfortunately, that how it is in all the uni all over the world. You can't really "learn" something because there's no time. But, don't worry, this is normal. The universities don't have the purpose to make you learn, despite what you might think. The objective is to give you the opportunity to learn. They give professors not to teach you something, but to help you with your doubts. If you only depends on the professor to learn something you're not going to go far.
Here's what I do. During the semester I try to absorb as much knowledge as I can and during the vacation, where I usually write my articles and stuff I revise all the subject by my self proving every theorem on a special book I bought just for this. I do all the exercises, every single one of them, even the ones the professor said to not do because it is "not the focus of the course".
That helps me a lot, and improve my ability on my area. Consider do that yourself.
 
Many universities offer an "honors" option to the math sequence, which is designed for students planning on doing graduate work in math. What makes them different is that they teach math from a more theoretical standpoint and emphasize proofs and theorems over problems and solutions. You might get more satisfaction taking honors linear algebra over linear algebra, because you'll understand why the results are how they are. Check out if your university has it.
 

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