Max Spring Force in SHM: Where & Why?

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The maximum spring force in simple harmonic motion occurs at the negative amplitude, where the spring is stretched the most. While the spring force is indeed equal in magnitude at both the positive and negative amplitudes, the net force must also account for gravity. At the positive amplitude, both the spring force and weight act downward, while at the negative amplitude, the spring force acts upward against the weight. This distinction clarifies that the spring force is not symmetrical when considering the effects of gravity. Understanding this relationship is crucial for analyzing forces in oscillatory motion.
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Homework Statement



Answer the following question for a mass that is hanging on a spring and oscillating up and down with simple harmonic motion.

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Where in the motion is the magnitude of the force from the spring on the mass a maximum?

The Attempt at a Solution



I drew two free body diagrams for the oscillating mass: one at the positive amplitude, and one at the negative amplitude. At the positive amplitude, the spring force and the weight force, the only two forces acting on the mass, are pointed downward. At the negative amplitude, the spring force is in the positive direction (up the y-axis) and the weight force is in the negative direction. I believe the answer to this question is that the spring force will be maxed at the negative amplitude. I don't quite understand that. Since we're talking about magnitudes, shouldn't the spring forces be equal at the top and bottom of the oscillation? Isn't there some kind of symmetry?

All help is appreciated.
 
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Buddhapus17 said:
I believe the answer to this question is that the spring force will be maxed at the negative amplitude.
Of course. That's where the spring is stretched the most.

I don't quite understand that. Since we're talking about magnitudes, shouldn't the spring forces be equal at the top and bottom of the oscillation? Isn't there some kind of symmetry?
Don't confuse the spring force with the net restoring force. There's also gravity to consider.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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