Maximize Points in n-D Space with Distance Threshold

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The discussion revolves around the problem of maximizing the number of points in a finite n-dimensional space, constrained to the range [0,1], while ensuring that no two points are closer than a specified distance threshold t. The scope includes theoretical exploration and mathematical reasoning related to high-dimensional geometry and packing problems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the problem may be related to the sphere packing problem, suggesting that the radius of the spheres should be t/2.
  • Another participant agrees that it resembles a sphere packing problem but notes exceptions at the corners and edges of the enclosing box.
  • A different participant argues that since t is the minimum distance, the corners are not significant, and using spheres of radius t/2 should yield similar results to using cubes with side length t.
  • In contrast, another participant contends that using cubes will fill the box neatly, while spheres will pack more tightly, indicating a disagreement on the packing method's effectiveness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of corners in the packing problem and the effectiveness of using spheres versus cubes, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best approach to the problem, and assumptions regarding the dimensions and packing methods remain unverified.

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I have a problem and I'm not sure if it has been formulated and/or solved before.

Suppose you have a finite n-dimensional space in which each dimension is constrained to [0,1]. I need the maximum number of points p that can be put in this space such that no two points are closer than some threshold t.

For instance, if n = 2 and t = 1, then p = 4. Think of the corners of a square with sides of length 1.
If n = 2 and t = 1.4, then p = 2, since opposite corners of a square with sides of length 1 are > 1.4 distance apart.

In general, my n is going to be large (>10000) and my t will certainly be greater than 1. I don't need a perfect formula. An approximation that gets me to within a factor of about 2 of the actual solution would be good enough.

I suspect this problem may be reducible to the sphere packing problem which has only been solved for up to 8 dimensions, but I thought I'd check with the experts to see.
 
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It does look like a sphere packing problem with radius = t/2.
 
mathman said:
It does look like a sphere packing problem with radius = t/2.
Except for at the corners and edges of the enclosing "box".
 
But since the "t" is minimum possible distance, the corners not really relevant. Using spheres of radius t/2 should give the same result as using cubes with side length t.
 
HallsofIvy said:
But since the "t" is minimum possible distance, the corners not really relevant. Using spheres of radius t/2 should give the same result as using cubes with side length t.

I don't think so. Using cubes will fill up the box neatly. Spheres will pack more tightly.
 

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