Maximizing Higgs Particle Travel: Insights on Acceleration and Detection

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the behavior and detection of Higgs particles, particularly in relation to their acceleration and travel through vacuum. Participants explore concepts related to scalar versus vector particles and the challenges associated with detecting Higgs bosons.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether Higgs particles can be accelerated similarly to photons using alternating magnetic and electric fields, suggesting the possibility of creating a Higgs detector.
  • Another participant clarifies that photons and classical electromagnetic fields are distinct, emphasizing that Higgs bosons are not related to electromagnetic fields and cannot be accelerated in the same manner.
  • A participant notes the extremely short lifetime of Higgs bosons, approximately 10^-22 seconds, which poses significant challenges for detection and travel.
  • One participant shifts the focus to the general travel behavior of scalar particles in vacuum compared to vector particles.
  • A response indicates that scalar and non-scalar particles travel in a similar manner, simply moving in a direction without additional complexities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of accelerating Higgs particles and the implications of their short lifetimes. There is no consensus on the methods of detection or the comparison between scalar and vector particles.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the production and detection of Higgs bosons, including the rarity of their production in collisions and the nature of what is observed in detectors (decay products rather than the Higgs itself).

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When you accelerate higgs.. would it travel the same as photon with alternating magnetic and electric field traveling on permissitity and permeability of the vacuum. In other words, how do you make scalar particles travel?

If we can make really sensitive Higgs detector.. then you make higgs radio out of it by sending it from one side to another on Earth by passing thru the core?
 
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It seems to me you are confusing a photon with the classical electromagnetic field. Classical electromagnetic fields are essentially coherent states of the quantised field and photons are single excitations.

Higgs are not at all related to the electromagnetic field. In addition, there is no way that you could accelerate a Higgs boson to do anything with it. There are several obstacles, the first being to produce the Higgs beam. The way Higgses have been produced is through collisions of protons, which only in very rare cases produces a Higgs but normally produces a ton of other particles. The second problem is the Higgs lifetime, it is extremely short - so short you can consider it instant for most purposes. Note that what is seen at the LHC detectors are not Higgses, but their decay products. The Higgses decay before reaching the measuring apparatus.
 
The lifetime of a Higgs boson is about 10-22 seconds. That is not even long enough to cross a single atom.
 
Ok. I just wanted to know how scalar particles (not necessarily higgs) travel in the vacuum compared to vectorial particles.. ?
 
In the same way non-scalar particles travel. They just fly in some direction.
 

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