Maximizing Success in Grad School: Expert Advice for Struggling PhD Students

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the challenges faced by a PhD student in astrophysics who is struggling to progress in their research project, has not published any papers, and is concerned about their future in academia. Participants explore potential options for the student, including changing advisors, dropping out, or seeking employment outside of academia, while also discussing the role of advisors and the pressures of graduate school.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests options such as dropping out, changing advisors, or staying with the current advisor, questioning the meaning of "last year" in the context of the PhD timeline.
  • Another participant highlights the importance of employable skills, asking about programming experience and lab instruments, and expresses concern over the advisor's role in the student's lack of publications.
  • The original poster mentions their programming skills in Python, Fortran, and C, and expresses frustration over their advisor's insistence on perfection before allowing publication.
  • Some participants share experiences of advisors who are either supportive or unsupportive, noting that a significant number of advisors may not facilitate student success.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of not finishing the PhD within the designated time frame and the potential need to communicate with the advisor about deadlines.
  • One participant recounts a personal story of someone who left a prestigious program due to a bad advisor and still found success, suggesting alternative funding sources or programs as options for the original poster.
  • Another participant argues that the lack of publications may not be a critical issue if the PhD program does not require them, emphasizing the importance of completing the thesis project instead.
  • Networking and exploring career options outside of academia are suggested as strategies for the original poster to consider.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the role of the advisor and the importance of publications, with no clear consensus on the best course of action for the original poster. Some emphasize the need to finish the PhD, while others suggest exploring alternative career paths.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying experiences with advisors and the pressures of graduate school, highlighting the complexity of navigating academic and career challenges without resolving the underlying issues faced by the original poster.

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I have a MSc in astrophysics and I'm a last year PhD student. My project is not going anywhere, I haven't published any paper and I'm far from finishing. My advisor is very picky and won't let me publish anything and I'm terrified the last years have been a huge waste of time.
What do you think my options are?
 
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Seems to me your options are:

  • Drop out
  • Change advisors
  • Stay with your current advisor

What do you mean by "last year" PhD student? Is it the 7 year boundary you're pushing?

What country are you located in?

You probably have almost no employable skills. What programming have you done? What lab instruments, if any, can you operate? You're about to be unemployed, one way or another, and need to start preparing for that.

If you've been in grad school more than a couple of years and have published nothing then your grad school advisor has failed you in an epic way.
 
I'm located in Europe and the PhD only last three years. I can program in Python, Fortran and C and I am bilingual.

My supervisor keeps saying that we have to perfect things and he's afraid of comments of possible referees, that's why I'm not publishing anything.
 
Lots of advisers are that way IME. Well, not maybe not lots... but they do exist. At my grad school I would say about a third were successful researchers and publishers. Another third were not, barely publishing and barely graduating students. The final third didn't even bother and effectively just taught. It was a very competitive process getting a competent adviser. If he/she had a high student acceptance rate in the incoming class there may not have been many advisers to choose from and there may not be one to switch too.
 
It sucks because I only have one year left and I really don't know where else to turn. I do know how to program but I certainly don't have the skills to work in a big company that require senior positions. Do you know where I can look for companies that hire programmers and also offer some sort of training? I'm looking for a positions anywhere in the world.

Do you think that programming is the only optionion if I quit academia?
 
matteo86bo said:
I'm located in Europe and the PhD only last three years.

What happens if you don't finish in three years? Have you talked to your supervisor about the looming deadline?
 
I won a scolarship two years ago but my supervisor is not really paying for me. But you're right, I have to talk to him as soon as possible. I'm just very afraid of doing it because I think I might lose it and compromise my future. I'm really pissed off because I won the scholarship because I was the first student in my class and now I'm failing!
 
I'm sorry to hear about your situation, I don't understand why an advisor would stop you from publishing, isn't that the whole point of spending 3 years doing research?

I've heard of a lot of people having really bad experiences with advisors and having to switch schools and start over their phd's/continue a similar thesis topic with someone else. I personally know one that won a scholarship for a phd in a top 10 astrophysics program in the US and despite being a top student, he left it for his home country a few years later because he hated the environment and unsupportive adviser. Did his phd in a far less famous university and still had a successful career, he's a lecturer at a top 5 UK uni now.

I think Neil de Grasse Tyson had a similar experience.

Might want to look into alternative sources of funding, intern programs or even other phd programs on the side elsewhere as something extreme if your project really isn't going to get finished.
 
I'm not sure I see your problem: Contrary to what many people (e.g. Locrian) seem to consider the norm or even mandatory, your supervisor won't let you publish crap for the mere sake of putting an oh-so important publication to your CV. Sure, that really sucks for you. But that alone isn't really an issue. Assuming your program requires you to have a publication to get your PhD (many do, your huge problem is really a non-issue if yours doesn't), you still have one year to get something worthwhile out of your thesis project. Talk to your supervisor and make it clear that, for the sake of both of you, you need to somehow get your PhD finished.

I strongly advice against dropping out of your PhD program. The worth of a PhD in industry is that it demonstrates/certifies a certain level of frustration tolerance and the ability to turn problems into at least some solution - which is exactly the challenge you seem up to at the moment. Usually, little emphasis is put on the length of your publication list (that varies between fields and depends, as you would probably agree, on the personality of the supervisor) or the quality of your research (that no one is qualified to estimate, anyways).
 
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matteo86bo said:
I'm located in Europe and the PhD only last three years. I can program in Python, Fortran and C and I am bilingual.

I'm glad to hear I was wrong - these sound like very employable skills to me, assuming you have reasonable competency in them.

Start networking with companies. Try to find people with a similar background who changed careers - often they're willing to discuss how they did so and what the market is like. They may have helpful ideas on how to sell yourself to future employers. Maybe you don't need it - maybe the PhD and something in your field works out. It can't hurt to learn about your options and prepare for all eventualities.

Changing careers would be tough, but it will be a thousand times tougher with a year of unemployment under your belt.
 

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