Maximizing θ with Probability Mass Function and Marbles Data

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around maximizing the parameter θ in a probability mass function related to a dataset of marbles categorized by color. Participants explore the likelihood function, its formulation, and the appropriate statistical distribution to apply, considering both binomial and multinomial distributions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks help on maximizing θ using a given probability mass function for colored marbles.
  • Another participant questions the formulation of the likelihood function in this context.
  • A participant clarifies that the random variables for the marbles are modeled by binomial distributions, suggesting the likelihood function is based on the binomial probability mass function.
  • Another participant challenges this by noting that the scenario involves four outcomes, indicating a multinomial distribution may be more appropriate.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the distribution of the marbles and suggests that each color could be modeled by a binomial distribution.
  • A later reply proposes that the likelihood function should be framed in terms of a multinomial distribution to account for all colors.
  • Another participant confirms the need to use the multinomial probability mass function and inquires about the steps to estimate θ.
  • A participant advises on setting up the log likelihood function, differentiating it, and checking for a maximum.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the clarifications provided during the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether to use a binomial or multinomial distribution for the likelihood function, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty in the approach to maximize θ.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding the distributions and the formulation of the likelihood function, but these assumptions remain unresolved and depend on the definitions used in the context of the problem.

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in need of help for how to do this question
given probability mass function:
x 1 2 3 4
p(x) 1/4(θ+2) 1/4(θ) 1/4(1-θ) 1/4(1-θ)

Marbles
1=green
2=blue
3=red
4=white

For 3839 randomly picked marbles
green=1997
blue=32
red=906
white=904

what is the max likelihood of θ using this data?
 
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What is the likelihood function in this case?
 
oops i left out that x=1,2,3,4 are of binomial distributions...
would the likelihood function be the pmf of binomial dist.?
= (nCx) p^x (1-p)^(n-x)

and the loglikelihood function be:
L(p)= log(nCx) + xlog(p) + (n-x)log(1-p) ??
 
Is it a binomial, or a multinomial distribution? Binomial has two possible outcomes; here you have four.
 
i'm a little lost at this point, in the above section it says that for example green marbles is modeled by a r.v. N1 with a binomial (n, 1/4(θ+2)) distribution and blue is modeled by r.v. N2 with a binomial (n,1/4(θ)) dist. where n in both cases is total # of marbles (3839 in this case)

so I'm assuming red and white have similar binomial dist.
 
It is possible to look at multinomial r.v.'s as a vector of binomial r.v.'s.

The likelihood function (nCx) p^x (1-p)^(n-x) represents just one of the 4 variables, though (e.g., green vs. not green). To capture all individual colors you need to think in terms of a multinomial distribution with multiple (> 2) outcomes.
 
hmm..so in this case i should use the multinomial prob. mass function to get the likelihood function.. then take the natural log of it correct?
Do I differentiate now and how do I arrive at the estimate for theta?
 
You should set up the log likelihood function L, then differentiate it with respect to theta, set it to zero, and solve for theta: L'(θ) = 0 so θ* = L'-1(0). Then check L"(θ*) < 0 to make sure it's a maximum and not a minimum.
 
thanks for the clarifications =)
 

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