Maximum voltage on coaxial cable?

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The discussion focuses on determining the maximum voltage a coaxial cable can handle, given a maximum electric field of E=3MV/m, an inner radius of a=2cm, and an outer radius of b=2.72a. The challenge arises from the lack of information regarding the dielectric constant, which is essential for calculating the breakdown voltage. Participants clarify that the outer radius is correctly defined as a multiple of the inner radius, but express confusion over the description of the dielectric filling. It is noted that the cable is partially filled with dielectric, which complicates the understanding of the electric field distribution. The conversation emphasizes the need for additional information to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


How to determine maximum voltage that coaxial cable, whose height is L and is filled with dielectric in such way that E is the same in the dielectric and in the part of the cable that isn't filled with dielectric (only vacuum),can handle if i have maximum electric field that is E=3MV/m, and i have inner radius a=2cm and outer b=2.72a. Dielectric is homogeneous and linear.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried like this U=∫E*dl but since i know exact value of Emax and no data for εr and Qmax i can't solve this.
 
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cdummie said:

Homework Statement


How to determine maximum voltage that coaxial cable, whose height is L and is filled with dielectric in such way that E is the same in the dielectric and in the part of the cable that isn't filled with dielectric (only vacuum),can handle if i have maximum electric field that is E=3MV/m, and i have inner radius a=2cm and outer b=2.72a. Dielectric is homogeneous and linear.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried like this U=∫E*dl but since i know exact value of Emax and no data for εr and Qmax i can't solve this.

The part I bolded looks like a typo -- is it?

The breakdown voltage will depend on the breakdown voltage of the dielectric and the spacing between the conductors. If you have the maximum electric field and the separation (and the dielectric constant), you should be able to calculate the breakdown voltage.
 
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berkeman said:
The part I bolded looks like a typo -- is it?

The breakdown voltage will depend on the breakdown voltage of the dielectric and the spacing between the conductors. If you have the maximum electric field and the separation (and the dielectric constant), you should be able to calculate the breakdown voltage.

I don't know what you mean, bolded part is correct b=2.72a, that's the given value. I don't have the value for the dielectric constant, if i had i could easily find Qmax and then find U using E expressed with Qmax. The problem is that i don't have dielectric constant.
 
cdummie said:
I don't know what you mean, bolded part is correct b=2.72a, that's the given value. I don't have the value for the dielectric constant, if i had i could easily find Qmax and then find U using E expressed with Qmax. The problem is that i don't have dielectric constant.

Oh, I see now. The outer radius is given as a multiple of the inner radius -- that's what was confusing me about the dimensions.

The rest of the question is a bit confusing as well. Is there a figure that you can post? What does it mean when it seems to say

cdummie said:
and is filled with dielectric in such way that E is the same in the dielectric and in the part of the cable that isn't filled with dielectric

That makes no sense unless the dielectric constant is the same as free space. Is the problem copied word-for-word?
 
berkeman said:
Oh, I see now. The outer radius is given as a multiple of the inner radius -- that's what was confusing me about the dimensions.

The rest of the question is a bit confusing as well. Is there a figure that you can post? What does it mean when it seems to say
That makes no sense unless the dielectric constant is the same as free space. Is the problem copied word-for-word?
It's not completely filled with dielectric, it's filled with dielectric to the some point and rest is free-space.
 

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