Maybe stupid question - zero positive or negative ?

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The discussion revolves around the proposition regarding the signs of three real numbers (a, b, c) and whether at least two of them must share the same sign. The original poster is grappling with the implications of including zero in this scenario.

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  • The original poster considers the case of zero and its classification as a sign, questioning whether it is positive, negative, or neutral. Other participants clarify that zero is neither positive nor negative, contributing to the understanding of the proposition.

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Hi
I have to say true or false, and then demonstrate my answer
"if taking any 3 Real numbers (a, b, c), we have at least 2 of the same sign"

For me its true, i was thinking of creating a triplet (x, y, z), where
x=1 if "a" positive, x=0 if "a" negative, same for y, and z
and show that with the all the (x, y, z) possibilities, you had always 2 of the same sign

But then, i realized, what if one of the reals a, b, c is equal to 0 ?
like if (a, b, c) = (0, 0, 0)

Is zero considered positive or negative, or both ?

If so, i would have to add another value to the reals of the (x, y, z) triplet , 2, which i can then take as positive when i need or as negative when i need
 
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Zero is neither positiive nor negative.
Any real number that is positive is greater than zero, and any negative real number is less than zero.
 
ok thank you
then i must reply false to the proposition "if taking any 3 Real numbers (a, b, c), we have at least 2 of the same sign", because with (0, 0, 0) for example , we have none of the same sign
 
JPC said:
ok thank you
then i must reply false to the proposition "if taking any 3 Real numbers (a, b, c), we have at least 2 of the same sign", because with (0, 0, 0) for example , we have none of the same sign
Right. Another example is (1, 0, -1).
 
ok, thank you, you helped me save time not doing a long and incorrect maths demonstration :)
 
JPC said:
ok thank you
then i must reply false to the proposition "if taking any 3 Real numbers (a, b, c), we have at least 2 of the same sign", because with (0, 0, 0) for example , we have none of the same sign

No. 0 is neither positive nor negative but is "its own sign". A better example is (-1, 0, 1).
 
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0 is non-negative.
 
JG89 said:
0 is non-negative.
Which does not answer the question (which had already been answered). 0 is also non-positive.
 
As others have already said, 0 is neither. 0 is basically the line between positive and negative.
:)
 

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