Measuring Spin of Qubit: Analyzing Algebraic States

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The discussion revolves around the measurement of a qubit's spin, specifically analyzing the algebraic states associated with the operators \(\sigma_z\) and \(\sigma_x\). Participants explore how to express the eigenvectors of \(\sigma_x\) in terms of the eigenvectors of \(\sigma_z\) and the implications of these measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that measuring \(\sigma_z\) on the qubit yields either \(|0\rangle\) or \(|1\rangle\), while measuring \(\sigma_x\) will yield one of its eigenstates, which are expressed as linear combinations of \(|0\rangle\) and \(|1\rangle\).
  • Another participant clarifies that the expectation value calculated in the measurement process is a number, which may lead to confusion regarding the retention of the algebraic structure.
  • Several participants suggest that the core question is how to express the eigenvectors of \(\sigma_x\) as linear combinations of the eigenvectors of \(\sigma_z\).
  • A participant provides the matrix representation of \(\sigma_x\) in the \(\sigma_z\) basis and mentions that diagonalizing this matrix will yield the eigenvectors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the nature of the question regarding the relationship between the eigenstates of \(\sigma_x\) and \(\sigma_z\). However, there is no consensus on the method to express these eigenstates or on how to maintain the algebraic structure during measurement.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the measurement process and the definitions of the states involved. The mathematical steps for diagonalization and the implications of the expectation value are not fully resolved.

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I read in a book:

For a qubit defined as: [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|0\rangle + |1\rangle)[/tex]

Since [tex]|0\rangle[/tex] and [tex]|1\rangle[/tex] are the eigenstates of [tex]\sigma_z[/tex] then measuring sigma_z will yield either [tex]|0\rangle[/tex] or [tex]|1\rangle[/tex]. Measuring [tex]\sigma_x[/tex] on the same qubit will give one of the eigenstates of [tex]\sigma_x[/tex], which are [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|0\rangle + |1\rangle)[/tex] and [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|0\rangle - |1\rangle)[/tex].

Only problem is I don't see how you can obtain these general/algebraic states? When I make a measurement on the qubit ie. ([tex](\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(\langle 0| +\langle1|))\sigma_x(\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|0\rangle + |1\rangle))[/tex] I just obtain a number? How can I keep this algebraic structure and prove the above?
 
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What exactly is your question?

In the last example you have calculated [tex]\langle \psi | \sigma_x | \psi \rangle[/tex] which is the expectation value of [tex]\sigma_x[/tex] for the state [tex]|\psi \rangle[/tex]. The expectation value is a number.
 
The question appears to be "How do you express the eigenvectors of [itex]\sigma_x[/itex] as linear combinations of eigenvectors of [itex]\sigma_z[/itex]?". I don't have time to answer that right now, so I'll leave it for someone else.
 
Fredrik said:
The question appears to be "How do you express the eigenvectors of [itex]\sigma_x[/itex] as linear combinations of eigenvectors of [itex]\sigma_z[/itex]?". I don't have time to answer that right now, so I'll leave it for someone else.

Yes exactly this!
 
The representation of [tex]\sigma_x[/tex] in the basis of the eigenvectors of [tex]\sigma_z[/tex] is
[tex]\left[ \begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 \end{array} \right][/tex]
So if you diagonalize that you will get the eigenvectors, which will be (1,1) and (1,-1). The eigenvectors for [tex]\sigma_z[/tex] in this basis are of course (1,0) and (0,1)
 

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