Measuring the resistance value of some bulbs.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the resistance of 35 light bulbs rated at 240V and 60W each, powered by a 5kW generator. Two methods were employed to determine the resistance, yielding different results: 960Ω from the first method and 166.67Ω from the second. The discrepancy arises because the second method incorrectly assumes the generator's maximum output is being utilized, while the actual power consumed by the bulbs is only 2.1kW. The correct calculation confirms that the resistance of each bulb is 960Ω.

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Homework Statement


A small generator of 5kW, 240V and a constant frequency is used to light up 35 bulbs in parallel, each one has (240 V, 60 W) printed on it. Calculate the resistance of each light bulb.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Attempt 1[/B]
Pw = V²/R ----> R = V²/Pw ------> R = 240²/60 = 960Ω

Attempt 2

i (passing thrrough the circuit) = 5*10³ /240 = 20.83 A
i (passing through each light bulb) = 20.83/35 = 0.6 A

Pw (in each bulb) = i²R -----> R = Pw/i² ----> R = 60/ 0.6² = 166.667Ω

Why do I get different results?
 
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Asmaa Mohammad said:
i (passing thrrough the circuit) = 5*10³ /240 = 20.83 A
i (passing through each light bulb) = 20.83/35 = 0.6 A

Pw (in each bulb) = i²R -----> R = Pw/i² ----> R = 240/ 0.6² = 666.666Ω

Why do I get different results?
Because your second method doesn't make any sense. You are treating the MAXIMUM POSSIBLE power output as though it were all being used.
 
The 5 kW only appears on the name plate of the generator: I can deliver 21 A. In the case of 35 bulbs x 60 W it only has to deliver just over 2 kW.
 
Just because it is a generator capable of putting out 5kWatts does not mean that is the actual total power it puts out. 35 bulbs x60 watts/bulb=2100 watts. (I see 2 others, @phinds and @BvU gave essentially the same answer, just ahead of me.)
 
The 5kW rating of a generator is the maximum rating. It will only provide 5kW if the resistance you use is low enough.
The same thing is usually true of current ratings of power supplies. The voltage is constant, as long as no more than the maximum power or current is drawn.
If you would use 140 lamps, for instance, they would have a resistance of 240Ω, and the generator would have to produce more than 5kw and one or more of the following would likely happen:
- The output voltage of the generator would become lower than 240 V.
- a fuse will blow
- The generator would get damaged
- Whatever the power source of the generator is would get damaged
 
Ok, guys, I will correct this. Here we are:
i = 2100/240 = 8.75 A
i (in each bulb) = 8.75/ 35 = 0.25 A
Pw = i²/R -----> R = Pw/i² = 60/0.25² = 960 Ω

Ok, I got the same result, thank you!
 
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Asmaa Mohammad said:
Ok, guys, I will correct this. Here we are:
i = 2100/240 = 8.75 A
i (in each bulb) = 8.75/ 35 = 0.25 A
Pw = i²/R -----> R = Pw/i² = 60/0.25² = 960 Ω

Ok, I got the same result, thank you!
Sometimes a question setter will provide unnecessary information. Part of the challenge is to figure out which information is relevant. (I like that because that is what happens in the real world.)
Can you see how you could have gone straight to the answer without knowing anything about the generator?
 
haruspex said:
Can you see how you could have gone straight to the answer without knowing anything about the generator?
That's what I did in Attempt 1 in #1, I used the information printed on the bulb itself (the power and the voltage).
 
Asmaa Mohammad said:
That's what I did in Attempt 1 in #1, I used the information printed on the bulb itself (the power and the voltage).
Ok, sorry for the noise.
 
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haruspex said:
Ok, sorry for the noise.
No, no, you made me aware that it is sometimes will give me unnecessary information. I should know what to use and what to not.
Thanks!
 

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