Mechanics (the book is too expensive) - would *this* work?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the challenges of acquiring the required textbook for a mechanics course in an electrical engineering curriculum. Participants explore alternative resources and the suitability of different textbooks for the course content, which includes topics such as force systems, kinematics, and energy principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern over the high cost of the required textbook and suggests photocopying problem sets from a classmate while using an alternative book, "An Introduction To Mechanics" by Kleppner and Kolenkow.
  • Another participant notes that Kleppner and Kolenkow is more theoretical and may not align well with the engineering focus of the required text, which is likely oriented towards engineering applications.
  • A different participant mentions that Kleppner and Kolenkow could be beneficial for learning the material but emphasizes that it is not intended for sophomore-level engineering courses.
  • Some participants recommend looking for older editions of the required textbook at a lower price, with one suggesting a specific link to a low-cost option on Amazon.
  • There is a mention of finding a free statics and dynamics text available online, which one participant intends to try out.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express differing views on the suitability of the Kleppner and Kolenkow textbook for the course, with some believing it could be helpful while others argue it may not align with the course's engineering focus. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to supplementing the required textbook.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential limitations of using alternative textbooks, including differences in focus and content coverage compared to the required text. There are also references to the availability of older editions and free resources, which may vary in quality and relevance.

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I am in my senior year as an EE student. Part of the curriculum is a course in mechanics, particularly (from the course description):

Force systems, resultants, moments and equilibrium. Kinematics and kinetics of particles, systems of particles and rigid bodies. Energy and momentum principles. Lecture, recitation. Prerequisites: PHY 121, 122. Pre- or corequisite: preferably MAT 275 (or 274).

The required text is Engineering Mechanics Statics & Dynamics (Bedford, Fowler); this is where the homework problems will be taken from. The book costs 170.00. To me this is outrageous, and I refuse to pay this much for a book I will never keep.

I had this thought, that I shall simply photocopy the problem sets from a fellow classmate, and pick up some book to suppliment the information. After some browsing I have found, An Introduction To Mechanics (Keppner, Kolenkow) for a very reasonable price.

Does anyone recommend that A: I do this, and B: That the Keppner, Kolenkow book would be enough to suppliment the other book?


Thanks in advance,
 
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I'm not acquainted with your required text, but from the title I strongly suspect that it's oriented towards engineering methods and applications. Kleppner and Kolenkow, on the other hand, is very much a physicist's textbook, and I would expect it to be more "theoretical" than the other book. I would not expect it to mesh well with your course.
 
jtbell said:
I'm not acquainted with your required text, but from the title I strongly suspect that it's oriented towards engineering methods and applications. Kleppner and Kolenkow, on the other hand, is very much a physicist's textbook, and I would expect it to be more "theoretical" than the other book. I would not expect it to mesh well with your course.

To me Kleppner and Kolenkow looks like I would actually learn the material. The other text reminds me of a halliday resnick treatment of mechanics.

I found a statics and dynamics text available free through (I believe) Cambridge professors that I will try out.

Thank you for your response. I am very glad I asked before ordering.
 
Kleppner & Kolenkow is an honors freshman-physics textbook, so probably something like a PHY 121 textbook at your school. It is a book worth having, especially if you can get it for cheap, but it is not a sophomore-level engineering statics/dynamics textbook, and it probably will not be very helpful for taking such a course. (It would, however, be a great way to review freshman physics in preparation for this course. :smile: ) I would suggest picking up one of the $4 used copies of the previous edition of the Bedford & Fowler text and photocopying the problem sets--I did basically the same thing for my first two circuits courses as an EE undergrad. :smile:
 
where did you find Kleppner for a reasonable price? Amazon has it for 150 ...
 

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