Graduate Mechanism of α decay - truth about structure of nuclei

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The discussion centers on the mechanism of alpha decay and the structure of heavy nuclei, suggesting that these nuclei consist of loosely bound alpha particles and extra neutrons. Participants express a desire for a theoretical framework that supports this view, noting a lack of existing theories. The Gamow theory of alpha decay is mentioned as a historical model, but it is acknowledged that modern nuclear theory has advanced beyond it. There is also a focus on the concept of nuclear null oscillations, although personal theories are discouraged in the discussion. The thread concludes with a request for references to academic literature on the topic.
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α decay probably implies that heavy enough nuclei which undergo this decay, consist relatively loosely bound α particles and extra neutrons.
I haven't found any theory which views nuclei in this way.
I value truth in science, and would like to know it, also regarding stucture of nuclei
and mechanism of α decay.
 
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H Tomasz Grzybowski said:
α decay probably implies that heavy enough nuclei which undergo this decay, consist relatively loosely bound α particles and extra neutrons.
I haven't found any theory which views nuclei in this way.
I value truth in science, and would like to know it, also regarding stucture of nuclei
and mechanism of α decay.
Please post links to the journal articles you've been reading about your question. Thank you.
 
H Tomasz Grzybowski said:
α decay probably implies that heavy enough nuclei which undergo this decay, consist relatively loosely bound α particles and extra neutrons.
I don't know how you got that impression (see also post 2), but it is wrong.
 
According to Wikipedia, the Gamow theory presented on that page dates from 1928, i.e. two years after Schrödinger published his famous equation. It's commonly seen in introductory modern physics textbooks, but it should be viewed as a historical or heuristic device. Nuclear theory has come a long way since 1928.
 
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That's indeed true, but there is some truth in Gamov's model since ##\alpha##'s are pretty strongly bound beasts and thus many nuclei show some clustering of ##\alpha##'s, and Gamov's model understanding ##\alpha## decay as tunneling of such "preformed" ##\alpha##'s is a nice qualitative picture of the process. To be quantitative you have to use more realistic models of nuclear structure, of course.
 
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So it looks like we should believe inexistence of nuclear null oscllations. Can the energy of these oscillations be calculated
using Planck constant h = 6.6267⋅10^-34 J⋅s ?
 
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I theorize myself. It seems natural to think that there are some oscillations which after some time lead to α decay.
And it looks like these oscillatons are incessant. So it invokes the idea of null oscilations.
 
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H Tomasz Grzybowski said:
I theorize myself. It seems natural to think that there are some oscillations which after some time lead to α decay.
And it looks like these oscillatons are incessant. So it invokes the idea of null oscilations.
It is against our rules to discuss personal theories. Additionally, the question
vanhees71 said:
What are nuclear null oscillations? Which book on nuclear physics are you reading?
is still unanswered.

If you can quote a paper or textbook which you refer to, please let me know via PM.
For the moment, this thread will be closed.
 

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