Medal Detector Myth: Unveiling the Truth

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The discussion clarifies the functioning of metal detectors, emphasizing that they operate by sending electromagnetic waves and detecting changes in frequency caused by metal objects. It debunks myths surrounding metal detectors, particularly the misconception that they can detect small amounts of metal, such as surgical implants, which may not trigger alarms due to calibration settings. Participants share personal experiences with metal detectors, highlighting variations in sensitivity based on the type and amount of metal present. The conversation also touches on humorous myths, such as alien implants, while focusing on the practical implications of metal detection technology.

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Hi,

I always fascinated by the idea of Medal Detector, they are everywhere. In Libraries, stores... What is the myth behind those machines?
 
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Hopefully you mean metal detector. The deal is that they send electromagnetic waves in the direction you point them, and tell you when the signal comes back.
They work because metals reflect EM waves. Visible light is a type of EM wave, and we all know how metals are generally shiny.
 
Those are not metal detectors. The only place you'll find metal detectors are at airport security. They detect the signal from a tag inserted in the product.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Those are not metal detectors.

Though if they are, I think I'll not visit the neighborhood where PrudensOptimus lives. :rolleyes:
 
ShawnD said:
Hopefully you mean metal detector. The deal is that they send electromagnetic waves in the direction you point them, and tell you when the signal comes back.
They work because metals reflect EM waves. Visible light is a type of EM wave, and we all know how metals are generally shiny.

In reality these devices are loosely tuned oscilators. When a piece of metal is inside the EM field the reactance of the tuning circuit is altered and the frequency changes. The changing frequency and not an echo is used to detect the presence of a metal.
 
Here is a related question:

I have about 2 ounces of surgical steel in my arm. Why can I pass through metal detectors without this being detected?

Is it the type of metal?

Is it that it is inside my arm?
 
It is probably the amount. I remember eharing that metal detcetors are callibrated to ignore metal in amounts too small to be a weapon. Only makes sense; can't have them going off every time someone with fillings in their teeth tries to walk through.

My mom has a screw in her leg, and she sets off the metals detectors everytime she goes to the airport. But that's a lot more than two ounces.
 
i went through a metal detector last year at NBC studios. it went off, and they made me go back. i started to take out my change and he said "no, that wouldn't set it off".

turns out it was the foil from my gum wrappers!
 
The metal underwire in my bra set off the metal detector at the airport a couple of years ago, my daughter's small belt buckle set it off last time.
 
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Crosson said:
Here is a related question:

I have about 2 ounces of surgical steel in my arm. Why can I pass through metal detectors without this being detected?

Is it the type of metal?

Is it that it is inside my arm?
It looks from this site:
Metal Detectors
Address:http://www.mwscientific.com/metal_det_test_sf.htm
like surgical pins aren't likely to set a detector off. Is your "2 ounces" the sum of the weight of several individual pins? If not, then you're just lucky.
 
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PrudensOptimus said:
What is the myth behind those machines?
No one has tackled the "myth" of metal detectors yet. The myth associated with metal detectors is that they can be set off if you have been abducted by space aliens and had an alien implant inserted into your body somewhere.
 
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Nice, zooby :-p

I suppose he merely meant to ask "how do these machines work?"
Or maybe he was looking for answer like yours. :rolleyes:
 
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z-component said:
I suppose he merely meant to ask "how do these machines work?"
He was clearly fishing for info about space aliens.
 
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Crosson said:
Here is a related question:

I have about 2 ounces of surgical steel in my arm. Why can I pass through metal detectors without this being detected?

Is it the type of metal?

Is it that it is inside my arm?

The zipper in my pants set off the alarm at the airport. You just need to tell them that you have something in your arm, and ask for them to search you with the want, and you will be set.
 
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Evo said:
The metal underwire in my bra set off the metal detector at the airport a couple of years ago, my daughter's small belt buckle set it off last time.

I have to go through metal detectors frequently for professional reasons and really wish I could buy all non-metalic clothing (wooden belt buckles, zipper free clothes with non-metal buttons, etc.).
 
  • #16
Get button up pants :D
 
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Evo said:
The metal underwire in my bra set off the metal detector at the airport
If you think that I'm not going to pursue this in GD, you're nuts.

moose said:
ask for them to search you with the want,
If you're implying that to search Crosson is to want him, then I pity anyone in the security business. Elsewise, I will assume that you meant wand. :-p

ohwilleke said:
I have to go through metal detectors frequently for professional reasons and really wish I could buy all non-metalic clothing
If you were a professional nudist, this wouldn't be a problem.

Okay, I'm going back to GD where I belong...
 
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I go through airports 8+ times per year, I've never been stopped.
 
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moose said:
The zipper in my pants set off the alarm at the airport. You just need to tell them that you have something in your arm, and ask for them to search you with the want, and you will be set.
Zipper in your pants... Right. You mean the foil-wrapped cuke.
 
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Is there anyone that doesn't like that movie?
 
  • #21
FredGarvin said:
Is there anyone that doesn't like that movie?
:confused:
 

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