What are the job prospects for a medical physics graduate in California?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the job prospects for graduates with a master's degree in medical physics, particularly from CAMPEP-accredited programs, in California. Participants explore the challenges of entering the job market, the competition for residencies, and expected starting salaries.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the job market for medical physics graduates and seeks feedback on the difficulty of obtaining a job with a master's from a CAMPEP school.
  • Another participant notes that MSc graduates have been struggling to compete for limited CAMPEP-accredited residencies against PhD graduates, highlighting a trend over recent years.
  • There are discussions about new residency models, such as "spoke and hub" models, which may provide opportunities for MSc graduates in smaller, clinically-oriented institutions.
  • Concerns are raised about the growing demand for medical physicists in cancer care and whether current training programs are sufficient to meet this demand.
  • Participants mention that starting salaries for residents are around $50k, but this can increase significantly once one becomes a qualified medical physicist, with various factors influencing salary levels.
  • Questions are raised about the necessity of entering a CAMPEP residency program immediately after graduation and whether there are alternative options available for MSc graduates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the job market situation, with multiple competing views regarding the necessity of residencies and the prospects for MSc graduates in medical physics.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the availability of solid statistics on job placement and salary expectations, as well as the dependence on various factors such as location and certification.

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I am a senior physics major. I am going to be applying to some grad schools over these next few months but it has me thinking that I really have only a few ideas about what i want out of school. I am so far going to be applying for an ms in medical physics at san diego state (CAMPEP certified).

I have no idea what the job market looks like for someone in trying to get into medical physics around this time..

I was hoping i could receive some feedback regarding how hard it will be to get a job with a masters from a campep school.

I was also wondering what i can expect to make starting salary? I am really looking to stay in the bay area region or just california in general (I am not all about the money, I just have family obligations that require more than 20k a year! lol)
I really appreciate any and all feedback. I am so lost looking into what is a viable career and starting to become overwhelmed.. thank you.
 
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Lawrencel2 said:
I have no idea what the job market looks like for someone in trying to get into medical physics around this time..
[I was hoping i could receive some feedback regarding how hard it will be to get a job with a masters from a campep school.

I don't have any solid stats, but for the last few years the trend has been that MSc graduates are finding it difficult to compete for the limited number of CAMPEP-accredited residencies against the PhD graduates.

There are initiatives to change this. Traditionally residencies have been offered by larger institutions and come hand-in-hand with post-doctoral research projects, which is one reason why PhD graduates are preferred. But several institutions are now examining "spoke and hub" residency models where residents will spend the majority of their time in smaller, clinically-oriented institutions but have some level of supervision/exposure/adminstration from the larger centres. These are targeted more towards the MSc-level graduates who want to get into the clinics.

As a point of commentary, I expect the job situation in medical physics to change once the US economy picks up, if it ever does. The demand for services in cancer care is growing and will continue to do so and there is some concern that we are actually not training enough medical physicists to keep up.

I was also wondering what i can expect to make starting salary? I am really looking to stay in the bay area region or just california in general (I am not all about the money, I just have family obligations that require more than 20k a year! lol)

This depends on a lot of factors including location, certification and highest degree. For residents the median salary is in the $50k ballpark, but it climbs substantially once you get your first job as a qualified medical physicist. For hard numbers I would recommend getting a student membership with the AAPM to have access to their annual salary surveys.
 
Choppy said:
I don't have any solid stats, but for the last few years the trend has been that MSc graduates are finding it difficult to compete for the limited number of CAMPEP-accredited residencies against the PhD graduates.

There are initiatives to change this. Traditionally residencies have been offered by larger institutions and come hand-in-hand with post-doctoral research projects, which is one reason why PhD graduates are preferred. But several institutions are now examining "spoke and hub" residency models where residents will spend the majority of their time in smaller, clinically-oriented institutions but have some level of supervision/exposure/adminstration from the larger centres. These are targeted more towards the MSc-level graduates who want to get into the clinics.

As a point of commentary, I expect the job situation in medical physics to change once the US economy picks up, if it ever does. The demand for services in cancer care is growing and will continue to do so and there is some concern that we are actually not training enough medical physicists to keep up.



This depends on a lot of factors including location, certification and highest degree. For residents the median salary is in the $50k ballpark, but it climbs substantially once you get your first job as a qualified medical physicist. For hard numbers I would recommend getting a student membership with the AAPM to have access to their annual salary surveys.
So, after Graduating with my Ms how necessary is it to enter a Campep residency program? Is their any options straight out of my Ms?

thankyou for the feedback!
 

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