Metaphorical line between knowledge and belief ?

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The discussion centers on the distinction between "knowledge" and "belief," questioning whether a clear line exists between the two concepts. Participants explore the nature of scientific knowledge, emphasizing that it is based on testable hypotheses and empirical validation, while beliefs may not require such scrutiny. The conversation touches on the philosophical definition of knowledge as "justified true belief," highlighting that false beliefs do not constitute knowledge. There is debate over the implications of private knowledge, particularly in the context of religious beliefs, and whether all beliefs can be considered a form of knowledge. The discussion also raises the challenge of defining knowledge and belief, noting that subjective interpretations complicate consensus. Ultimately, participants argue about the criteria for determining what constitutes knowledge, the role of truth in knowledge claims, and the implications of differing definitions in philosophical discourse.
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brainstorm said:
If I miss some finer nuance that you claim is irritating that I miss, my question to you is whether it was explicit? If it wasn't, then the "teacher" needs to learn to better explicate what was missed.

If an issue appears repeatedly in your interactions with people, then it is likely to be your issue.
 
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apeiron said:
If an issue appears repeatedly in your interactions with people, then it is likely to be your issue.

"likely" isn't good enough to establish certainty. Provide an example for analysis and I'll apologize if I was at fault.
 
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brainstorm said:
"likely" isn't good enough to establish certainty. Provide an example for analysis and I'll apologize if I was at fault.

Try https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=2664214&postcount=20

Originally Posted by brainstorm
You can measure an imaginary unicorn...

Yeah, you can't measure imaginary things. You can pretend to, but that's totally irrelevant to anything we're discussing.

I'm trying to keep this on track here. I think we'd all appreciate a little effort.
 
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apeiron said:
Try https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=2664214&postcount=20

Originally Posted by brainstorm
You can measure an imaginary unicorn...

Yeah, you can't measure imaginary things. You can pretend to, but that's totally irrelevant to anything we're discussing.

I'm trying to keep this on track here. I think we'd all appreciate a little effort.

The point was that no proof of existence is necessary for the act of measurement. All that is necessary is a unit of comparison, an object to represent the unit, and a logic for comparing the unit object with the thing to be measured.

People were arguing that for something to be measured it had to be real, or that measurability proves that something is real. The unicorn example was to show that reality-status has nothing to do with measurability.
 

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