Method of characteristics-How can I continue?

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The discussion revolves around solving a hyperbolic system of equations using the method of characteristics. Participants explore the formulation of the equations, the conditions under which certain transformations can be applied, and the implications of those transformations on the solution process.

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  • One participant presents a hyperbolic system of equations and attempts to apply the method of characteristics, expressing uncertainty about how to proceed after deriving certain equations.
  • Another participant suggests that the transformation involving $\frac{x}{t}$ can only be applied if it is constant, proposing $x = Ct$ as a necessary condition.
  • Further exploration leads to the identification of left eigenvectors and the formulation of equations involving combinations of $u_1$ and $u_2$, with participants questioning the validity of their transformations.
  • There is a discussion about whether to treat $C$ as a constant or to replace it with $\frac{x}{t}$ in the context of solving the derived equations.
  • Participants express confusion about the correct formulation of the equations and the implications of their transformations, leading to further questioning about the correctness of their approaches.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to take after deriving the equations. There are competing views on the treatment of $C$ and the conditions under which certain transformations can be applied.

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Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions underlying their transformations and the implications of treating certain variables as constants. The discussion reflects the complexity of applying the method of characteristics to the given hyperbolic system.

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Hey! :o

I have to solve the following hyperbolic system of equations using the method of characteristics:

$$\left.\begin{matrix}
\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{t}}+\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+x^2 \frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}}=0\\
\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{t}}+t^2 \frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}}=0
\end{matrix}\right\}$$

$ A=\begin{bmatrix}
1 & x^2\\
t^2 & 1
\end{bmatrix}$

$\displaystyle{u_t+Au_x=0}$

To check if it is hyperbolic, we have to find the eigenvalues:$\displaystyle{det(A-\lambda I)=(1-\lambda)^2-(xt)^2=0 \Rightarrow \lambda=1 \pm xt}$

$\gamma^T=\begin{bmatrix}
\gamma_1 & \gamma_2
\end{bmatrix}$: left eigenvectors

  • $\lambda=1-xt:$
To find the eigenvector, we do the following:

$$\gamma^T(A-\lambda I)=0 \Rightarrow \begin{bmatrix}
\gamma_1 & \gamma_2
\end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix}
xt & x^2\\
t^2 & xt
\end{bmatrix}=\begin{bmatrix}
0 & 0
\end{bmatrix}$$

We set $\gamma_1=1$, so $\gamma_2=-\frac{x}{t}$

We take the linear combination of the equations:

$$\gamma_1(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{t}}+\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+x^2 \frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}})+\gamma_2 ( \frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{t}}+t^2 \frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}} )=0$$

$$(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{t}}-\frac{x}{t}\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{t}})+((1-xt)\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+(x^2-\frac{x}{t})\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}})=0$$

I cannot write it as followed:

$$\frac{\partial}{\partial{t}}(u_1-\frac{x}{t}u_2)+(1-xt) \frac{\partial}{\partial{t}}(u_1-\frac{x}{t}u_2)=0$$

right??

So I cannot write it as a total derivative of something...

How can I continue then??
 
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mathmari said:
I cannot write it as followed:

$$\frac{\partial}{\partial{t}}(u_1-\frac{x}{t}u_2)+(1-xt) \frac{\partial}{\partial{x}}(u_1-\frac{x}{t}u_2)=0$$

right??

So I cannot write it as a total derivative of something...

How can I continue then??

Hi! (Wasntme)

You can write it like that only if $\frac x t$ is constant.
So I think that is what you need:
$$x = C t$$
 
I like Serena said:
Hi! (Wasntme)

You can write it like that only if $\frac x t$ is constant.
So I think that is what you need:
$$x = C t$$

Ahaa... (Thinking)

  • $\lambda=1+xt$

$\displaystyle{\gamma_1=1, \gamma_2=\frac{x}{t}}$

$$\gamma_1(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{t}}+\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+x^2 \frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}})+\gamma_2 ( \frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{t}}+t^2 \frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}} )=0$$$$(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{t}}+\frac{x}{t}\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{t}})+(1+xt)(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+\frac{x}{t}\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}})=0$$

$$(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{t}}+C\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{t}})+(1+Ct)(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+C\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}})=0$$

$$\frac{\partial}{\partial{t}}(u_1+Cu_2)+(1+Ct) \frac{\partial}{\partial{x}}(u_1+Cu_2)=0$$

We set $\displaystyle{v_+=u_1+Cu_2}$:

$$\frac{\partial}{\partial{t}}v_++(1+Ct) \frac{\partial}{\partial{x}}v_+=0$$

$$\frac{dv_+}{dt}=\frac{\partial{v_+}}{\partial{t}}+\frac{dx}{dt}\frac{\partial{v_+}}{\partial{t}}=0 \text{ when } \frac{dx}{dt}=1+Ct$$

To solve the equation $\displaystyle{\frac{dx}{dt}=1+Ct }$, do I consider $C$ as a constant?? Or do I have to replace it with $\displaystyle{\frac{x}{t}}$?? (Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
$$(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{t}}+\frac{x}{t}\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{t}})+(1+xt)(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+\frac{x}{t}\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}})=0$$

$$(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{t}}+C\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{t}})+(1+Ct)(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+C\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}})=0$$

Wah? :eek:
To solve the equation $\displaystyle{\frac{dx}{dt}=1+Ct }$, do I consider $C$ as a constant?? Or do I have to replace it with $\displaystyle{\frac{x}{t}}$?? (Wondering)

Yep. Like a constant. (Mmm)
 
I like Serena said:
Wah? :eek:

It should be as followed, shouldn't it?? (Blush) (Sweating)

$$(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{t}}+\frac{x}{t}\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{t}})+(1+xt)(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+\frac{x}{t}\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}})=0$$

$$(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{t}}+C\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{t}})+(1+Ct^2)(\frac{\partial{u_1}}{\partial{x}}+C\frac{\partial{u_2}}{\partial{x}})=0$$

$$\frac{\partial}{\partial{t}}(u_1+Cu_2)+(1+Ct^2) \frac{\partial}{\partial{x}}(u_1+Cu_2)=0$$

We set $\displaystyle{v_+=u_1+Cu_2}$:

$$\frac{\partial}{\partial{t}}v_++(1+Ct^2) \frac{\partial}{\partial{x}}v_+=0$$

$$\frac{dv_+}{dt}=\frac{\partial{v_+}}{\partial{t}}+\frac{dx}{dt}\frac{\partial{v_+}}{\partial{t}}=0 \text{ when } \frac{dx}{dt}=1+Ct^2$$

$\displaystyle{\frac{dx}{dt}=1+Ct^2 \Rightarrow dx=(1+Ct^2)dt \Rightarrow x=t+\frac{C}{3}t^3+a \Rightarrow a=x-t-\frac{C}{3}t^3}$

So $v_+$ is constant when $x-t-\frac{C}{3}t^3$ is constant, so
$$v_+=f(x-t-\frac{C}{3}t^3)$$Or have I done something wrong?? (Wondering)
 

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