Midpoint rule causing confusion

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The discussion revolves around estimating the volume of a human liver using the midpoint rule based on cross-sectional area data obtained from a CAT scan. The cross sections are spaced 1.5 cm apart, and the areas are provided in square centimeters. Participants are analyzing the application of the midpoint rule and comparing their results to a known correct answer.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of volume using midpoints of area pairs and express confusion regarding discrepancies in their results compared to the expected answer. There are attempts to verify calculations and identify potential errors in reasoning.

Discussion Status

Some participants have checked each other's work and expressed uncertainty about the calculations, while others suggest alternative methods such as the trapezoidal rule. There is acknowledgment of differing interpretations of how to apply the midpoint rule, and some participants have found clarity through visual representation of the data.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of constraints related to the lack of a function to describe the process, leading to discussions about the validity of using alternate midpoints. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and seeks guidance on where they may have gone wrong.

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Homework Statement


A Cat scan produces equally spaced cross-sectional views of a human organ that provide information about the organ otherwise obtained only by surgery. Suppose that a CAT scan of a human liver shows cross sections spaced 1.5cm apart. The liver is 15cm long and the cross-sectional areas in square centimetres, are 0, 18, 58, 79, 94, 106, 117, 128, 63, 39 and 0. Use the midpoint rule to estimate the volume of the liver.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I ended up with an answer of 1053cm3 by taking the midpoints of the following pairs of values, (0, 18), (18, 58), (58, 79), (79, 94), (94, 106), (106, 117), (117, 128), (128, 63), (63, 39), (39, 0), Resulting in

V = 1.5 x ( 9 + 38 + 68.5 + 86.5 + 100 + 111.5 + 122.5 + 95.5 + 51 + 19.5 )
= 1.5 x 702
= 1053cm3

The correct answer is 1110cm3. 1053cm3 seems to be the answer for either the left or right endpoint. I just know I've done something silly here but I can't spot where the error lies.
 
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Lord Anoobis said:

Homework Statement


A Cat scan produces equally spaced cross-sectional views of a human organ that provide information about the organ otherwise obtained only by surgery. Suppose that a CAT scan of a human liver shows cross sections spaced 1.5cm apart. The liver is 15cm long and the cross-sectional areas in square centimetres, are 0, 18, 58, 79, 94, 106, 117, 128, 63, 39 and 0. Use the midpoint rule to estimate the volume of the liver.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I ended up with an answer of 1053cm3 by taking the midpoints of the following pairs of values, (0, 18), (18, 58), (58, 79), (79, 94), (94, 106), (106, 117), (117, 128), (128, 63), (63, 39), (39, 0), Resulting in

V = 1.5 x ( 9 + 38 + 68.5 + 86.5 + 100 + 111.5 + 122.5 + 95.5 + 51 + 19.5 )
= 1.5 x 702
= 1053cm3

The correct answer is 1110cm3. 1053cm3 seems to be the answer for either the left or right endpoint. I just know I've done something silly here but I can't spot where the error lies.
I've checked your work, and I don't see anything wrong, either.
 
Mark44 said:
I've checked your work, and I don't see anything wrong, either.
Probably a printing error then. Thanks for the input.
 
I agree with RUber's work.
 
At first, using a 3cm interval made no sense. However, once I made a plot of the whole works to see what was happening it became crystal clear!
With no function describing the process, only alternate points can be used since only those are known to lie on the curve with the available information, correct? I feel that while this is something of a trick question, it does carry an important lesson. One which will not be forgotten. Many thanks.
 
You can't make up your own midpoints, since you don't have a function to prove.
So, the solution is:
+((15-0)/5)(18+79+106+128+39)= 1110 cm^3
 

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