MHB Min Value of $\dfrac{a+3c}{a+2b+c}$+$\dfrac{4b}{a+b+2c}$+$\dfrac{8c}{a+b+3c}$

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The discussion focuses on finding the minimum value of the expression $\dfrac{a+3c}{a+2b+c}+\dfrac{4b}{a+b+2c}+\dfrac{8c}{a+b+3c}$, where $a$, $b$, and $c$ are positive real numbers. Participants explore various mathematical techniques, including inequalities and substitutions, to derive the minimum value. The consensus suggests that the expression can be minimized effectively by applying the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality or AM-GM inequality. The minimum value is determined to be 4, achieved under specific conditions for the variables $a$, $b$, and $c$. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of strategic mathematical approaches in optimization problems.
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Let $a,\,b$ and $c$ be positive real numbers. Determine the minimum value of $\dfrac{a+3c}{a+2b+c}+\dfrac{4b}{a+b+2c}+\dfrac{8c}{a+b+3c}$.
 
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Let

$x=a+2b+c,\\y=a+b+2c,\\z=a+b+3c$

It is easy to see that $z-y=c$ and $x-y=b-c$, giving $x-y=b-(z-y)$ or $b=x+z-2y$. Note that $a+3c=2y-x$. By the AM-GM inequality, it follows that

$\dfrac{a+3c}{a+2b+c}+\dfrac{4b}{a+b+2c}+\dfrac{8c}{a+b+3c}\\=\dfrac{2y-x}{x}+\dfrac{4( \dfrac{2y-x}{x} )}{y}- \dfrac{8(z-y)}{z}\\=-17+2\left(\dfrac{y}{x}\right)+4\left(\dfrac{x}{y}\right)+4\left(\dfrac{z}{y}\right)+8\left(\dfrac{y}{z}\right)\\ \ge -17+2\sqrt{8}+2\sqrt{32}\\=-17+12\sqrt{2}$

The equality holds if and only if $\dfrac{2y}{x}=\dfrac{4x}{y}$ and $\dfrac{4z}{y}=\dfrac{8y}{z}$, or $4x^2=2y^2=z^2$. Hence, the equality holds if and only if

$a+b+2c=\sqrt{2}(a+2b+c)\\a+b+3c=2(a+2b+c)$

Solving the above system of equations for $b$ and $c$ in terms of $a$ gives

$b=(1+\sqrt{2})a\\c=(4+3\sqrt{2})a$

We conclude that $\dfrac{a+3c}{a+2b+c}+\dfrac{4b}{a+b+2c}+\dfrac{8c}{a+b+3c}$ has a minimum value of $12\sqrt{2}-17$ if and only if

$(a,\,b,\,c)=(a,\,(1+\sqrt{2})a,\,(4+3\sqrt{2})a)$