Minimizing Reflected Light Wavelengths

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to minimizing reflected light using a film coating on glass. The original poster is trying to determine the appropriate thickness of the film needed to achieve destructive interference for light of a specific wavelength (550 nm) given the indices of refraction for both the film and the glass.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the film thickness using the wavelength of light and the indices of refraction. Some participants question the necessity of the glass's index of refraction in the calculations, while others suggest that it is important for determining phase shifts upon reflection.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations and reasoning. Some have confirmed the approach but noted potential complexities and errors. There is an ongoing exploration of the role of phase shifts in the problem, with participants providing guidance on the importance of considering the glass's index of refraction.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses confusion about the use of the glass's index of refraction and its impact on the calculations, indicating a potential gap in understanding related to phase differences and interference principles.

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Hey there, I'm new here mainly because I realized how deficient my ability to think in Physics/Math based scenarios really is, plus if I'm going to stay in Premed I need to pass a Phys 101 course in 1st year.

So, my question is this..

The windows in an office tower are coated with a film to minimize reflected light of wavelength 550 nm. If the glass has an index of refraction of 1.52 and the film coating has an index of refraction of 1.25, how thick should the film be applied?

If someone could help me through and confirm my thinking on this it would be greatly appreciated.

Distance traveled by the ray after reflection = 550 / 2 = 225 nm

Distance traveled in film = 2x

λ (μ(air) / μ(film)) = λ (1 / 1.25) = 550 / 1.25

Total Distance = 2x + (550 / 1.25) / 2 = 2x + 110

Now to go back in the reflection.. (2x + 110)(μ(film) / μ(air)) = 2x(1.25) + 225 nm


These should interfere destructively.
(2) - (1) = 2x(1.25) = λ/2
x = (λ / (4 x 1.25) ) = 550 / 5 = 110 nm

I just don't know if that is how thick the film should be applied on the glass, I am lost.
 
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Where is your question? It looks like you have found the thickness of your film (110nm) you need to have destructive interference at the surface of the film.
 
rodriguez1gv said:
Where is your question? It looks like you have found the thickness of your film (110nm) you need to have destructive interference at the surface of the film.

Here it is from my original post.

InferiorMindX said:
So, my question is this..

The windows in an office tower are coated with a film to minimize reflected light of wavelength 550 nm. If the glass has an index of refraction of 1.52 and the film coating has an index of refraction of 1.25, how thick should the film be applied?

The only thing that confuses me is that I never use the glasses' index of refraction which is 1.52.

Did I really do everything necessary without it?
 
Your basic approach is correct. But you made it more complex that it needs to be and so made some errors.

What you need is destructive interference. That means that the ray reflected at the film/glass interface, when it goes all the way back to the outer edge of the film, must be opposite in phase with the incident ray. What optical distance must the ray cover to be opposite in phase?
 
InferiorMindX said:
The only thing that confuses me is that I never use the glasses' index of refraction which is 1.52.
Knowing the index of refraction of the glass, and how it compares to that of the film, allows you to determine the phase shift upon reflection. Here you got lucky, as the first surface (air to film) and second surface (film to glass) have the same phase shift.
 
Alright, points have been taken into account but my approach on the problem was told wrong on the account of Phase Difference and not using Phase Reversal. Anyone point me in the right direction?
 
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