Announcement Moderate forum software upgrade 4/10

[Greg Bernhardt]

Tomorrow 4/10 I'll be upgrading the core forum software. It is a moderate update that required some addon and style adjustments. One of these big changes is a new editor. I predict there will be some minor issues going forward. Please be aware and report them so we can get them fixed asap. Thanks!

 

[phinds]

Ah, Jeez, he's going to fiddle with the knobs again.

 

[Dr Transport]

But don't push the red button...

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

The upgrade is complete. I already see a few issues like some icons not showing. I'll spend tomorrow working through these issues. Please report anything else you find in here.

 

[Hamiltonian]

the preview option is no longer visible

 

[BillTre]

Its in the left corner:

 

[PeroK]

I would never have spotted that!

 

[etotheipi]

Some honest feedback would be that I preferred the old preview button, just because you could see the preview whilst editing and also because you don't need to keep clicking backward and forward. Although, maybe I'll warm to it...

 

[Mark44]

the preview option is no longer visible

Its in the left corner:

View attachment 281325

That would be the other left corner -- the one on the upper right...

 

[Lisa!]

That would be the other left corner -- the one on the upper right...

I still don't see any preview option even on the upper right!:(

 

[PeroK]

I still don't see any preview option even on the upper right!:(

It's a page with a little magnifying glass. What else would it be? Who needs words when you have icons?

 

[Vanadium 50]

I never thought that alphabet thingy would catch on. Give me good old fashioned hieroglyphics any day!

 

[berkeman]

Looks like the smiley things are gone. I tried looking under the "more" dot things as well...

 

[etotheipi]

Looks like the smiley things are gone. I tried looking under the "more" dot things as well...

 

[Lisa!]

It's a page with a little magnifying glass. What else would it be? Who needs words when you have icons?

Thanks! I almost tested every new icon but I thought this 1 had been here even before upgrading

 

[Ibix]

I like the new editor - everything now seems to be accessible in mobile, which wasn't the case with the old one. It'll take a bit of time to get used to the submenu layout, though.

 

[Ibix]

@Greg Bernhardt - you said there were a few missing icons. I've noticed that the "My PF" link in the menu bar seems to be gone (although it's clickable). Also my trophy is missing, although I see etotheipi, V50 and phinds' trophies. Not noticed anything else missing.

 

[PeroK]

@Greg Bernhardt - you said there were a few missing icons. I've noticed that the "My PF" link in the menu bar seems to be gone (although it's clickable). Also my trophy is missing, although I see etotheipi, V50 and phinds' trophies. Not noticed anything else missing.

I can see you are a Science Advisor and Insights Author.

 

[berkeman]

View attachment 281353

Ah, thanks! I clicked the other two 3-dot things, but missed the ones in the middle.

 

[Ibix]

I can see you are a Science Advisor and Insights Author.

Yes, I can see that too, but I also won a trophy this year and I don't see that. <stamps feet, sulks>

 

[etotheipi]

Actually on that subject, I can't see @PeroK's either. Which is ironic, given that before adjustment he won like 9 of them or something...

 

[PeroK]

Actually on that subject, I can't see @PeroK's either. Which is ironic, given that before adjustment he won like 9 of them or something...

I think it was no more than 8.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

Yes, I can see that too, but I also won a trophy this year and I don't see that. <stamps feet, sulks>

Yeah the awards say 2019, looks like the 2020 awards got reverted, I'll get on this later today.

 

[etotheipi]

wait wtf, you're telling me it's already 2021?

 

[Lnewqban]

I can't attach pictures anymore.

 

[jack action]

Some honest feedback would be that I preferred the old preview button, just because you could see the preview whilst editing and also because you don't need to keep clicking backward and forward. Although, maybe I'll warm to it...

I hated the old design. If at least the preview would have appeared after the preview button. It was a pain with long posts to go from editing to click preview again.

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Not sure if this has anything to do with the upgrade, but it seems I don't receive email notifications anymore. My settings are still the same, I tried one thread where I click unwatch and then watch again, but I still don't get email notifications when there is a new post. (But the on-site notifications work fine)

 

[Mark44]

I can't attach pictures anymore.

Yeah, I can't either...

BTW, I took the photo above at the top of my state's second highest volcano -- Mt. Adams, 12,281 ft. Early in the 20th century miners gathered sulfur from the summit and hauled it down on mules to a wagon road, then continued by horse-drawn wagons. Along about that time people discovered that they could pump hot water into deposits of sulfur in Louisiana with much less effort, so the claim on Mt. Adams was no longer economically viable. The cabin was still "standing" when I took the picture in the late '80s.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

test

 

[Vanadium 50]

Yeah the awards say 2019, looks like the 2020 awards got reverted, I'll get on this later today.

You're going to rip off my 2019 badge?
Again?

...least you could do is add a 10K like award.

 

[Ibix]

You're going to rip off my 2019 badge?
Again?

<Salutes, plays Taps>

 

[etotheipi]

<Salutes, plays Taps>

You'd hope so, but I managed to obtain secret footage of Greg taking away someone's 2019 badge last year, and it's not pretty...

 

[Ibix]

So I don't know if this is a forum issue or my browser, but I only see a blank space where @etotheipi apparently put a video.

 

[berkeman]

So I don't know if this is a forum issue or my browser, but I only see a blank space where @etotheipi apparently put a video.

I can see it (Gordon!). I'm using Firefox on Win10.

 

[Ibix]

Firefox on Android - still can't see it, even after a restart.

 

[anorlunda]

I can see it (Gordon!). I'm using Firefox on Win10.

I can't see it using Chrome. I see this:

I also saw a message saying "requests to the server are blocked by an extension", but now that message disappeared.

 

[berkeman]

I can't see it using Chrome.

I fired up Chrome and can see it okay. I didn't log into the Chrome session, so I also saw lots of ads. Some of them pretty racy...

 

[etotheipi]

so I also saw lots of ads. Some of them pretty racy...

...I swear it's not my fault, honest!

 

[BvU]

I like the new editor - everything now seems to be accessible in mobile, which wasn't the case with the old one. It'll take a bit of time to get used to the submenu layout, though.

Yes, and by the time everyone is working from his wristwatch we will have six or seven vdots ( $\vdots$ ) side by side and no icons any more.

I appreciate some folks want to work like gyneacologists (in a small workspace), but I have 48 inches widh (of which PF refuses to use more than twelve for some obscure reason) and it's stupid to have these $\vdots$ on a mostly white and empty toolbar space.

By the way: why hide one set of more ... when you click another, when there is plenty room to expand them all ?

By the byway: the second $\vdots$ compresses all of two buttons !

grmbl grmbl (how do you enlarge one of these ?)

$\$

 

[Ibix]

Yes, and by the time everyone is working from his wristwatch we will have six or seven vdots ( ) side by side and no icons any more.

I hadn't tried it on a desktop when I wrote the post you quoted. I'm currently on my laptop, and I agree it seems odd that the menus aren't expanded. Is that an option, Greg?

I can see the video in #31 on this device, and I've also just checked and it's now working in my phone too, @Greg Bernhardt. So either you've fixed it or it fixed itself.

 

[Vanadium 50]

<Salutes, plays Taps>

More like the theme from Branded.

 

[berkeman]

vdots ( )

Hah, I learned a new word!

 

[berkeman]

More like the theme from Branded.

Stupid dinky broken sabre. I wish I had my rifle back. Er, I mean my badge...

https://www.riflemanconnors.com/Branded/images/Branded/branded-index.gif

 

[epenguin]

I would never have spotted that!

I found it all by myself.

 

[epenguin]

Its in the left corner:

View attachment 281325

That's the right in my universe.

Ah but then you lot drive on the wrong side of the road don't you so I guess it's OK for you.

 

[Tom.G]

[rant]

Of the 4 vdots(), 3 of them are functional. Vdots() at the circular arrow show... nothing.

Math Symbols can not be found.

and it's stupid to have these on a mostly white and empty toolbar space.

And ANNOYING!

I suppose that many of the hundreds of users can Eventually figure out which icon is hidden behind which Vdot(), but Why Should They? Can you have the icons scroll on demand if they won't fit on a phone?

Text Editing by highlite-and-drag is erratic as to placement (destination) within a line.

re. the video in post 31:
Shows a still image
Click on Play and a circle segment chasing itself, forever
(that's a known video format/browser incompatibility here)
Click on Stop and the video frame goes blank

Some honest feedback would be that I preferred the old preview button, just because you could see the preview whilst editing and also because you don't need to keep clicking backward and forward.

Another vote for the old Preview button functionality (separate windows).

So far, this 'New and Improved' is an 'Advance to the Rear.;' features less accessible and require more interaction and more time.

User friendly, No. A pain in the rear, Yes.

HELP!
[end rant]

 

[mfb]

...least you could do is add a 10K like award.

I support that feature request.

And maybe 12500 as next step or so.

 

[Tom.G]

[rant part 2]
Going thru the homework section with lots of images, I discovered another 'Extra Work' situation.

In the past imbedded images could be opened in the same tab by clicking on the image, or in a new tab by clicking the filename.

That option is no longer available; the image opens in the same tab thereby blocking the text of the post. After opening the image there is an option to open in a new tab, however this now takes 4 mouse clicks to have the text in one tab and the image in a separate one.

Four mouse-and-click operations versus one. Is anyone considering usability, or intentionally making things more complex?

[end rant part 2)

 

[phinds]

Greg, I just notice that for threads I'm watching, the little eye icon, clearly indicating that I'm watching it, has been replaced by a bell icon, which as nearly as I can tell means you've got got bats in your belfry since you think a bell implies sight. Ding ding ding !

 

[mfb]

Four mouse-and-click operations versus one.

Scroll-wheel click? Or whatever else your browser accepts as "open this link in a new tab".
I do that every time I want to open things in a new tab. Websites may or may not set that as default, I don't rely on it because it's a single click either way.

 

[berkeman]

Of the 4 vdots(), 3 of them are functional. Vdots() at the circular arrow show... nothing.

Math Symbols can not be found.

Middle Vdot() set next to the picture thing, then 3rd icon from the right (the Greek Parthenon symbol)