Module Equivalence: Understanding Ann(M)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of module equivalence, specifically how an R-module M can be regarded as an R/I-module where I is the annihilator of M. Participants explore the implications of this relationship, the nature of scalar multiplication, and the properties of the quotient ring R/I.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of "regarded as" in the context of M being an R/I-module, wondering if an isomorphism or a bijection is required.
  • Another participant suggests that the goal is to show that M, with the defined scalar multiplication, forms an R/I-module, emphasizing the equivalence of scalar products in both contexts.
  • A participant expresses curiosity about the implications of M being both an R-module and an R/I-module, questioning the relationship between R and R/I given they are not isomorphic.
  • Further elaboration is provided on constructions related to ring homomorphisms and how they apply to the context of R and R/I, noting that the underlying group of the tensor product can be viewed as an S-module structure.
  • Discussion includes the idea that the category of R/I-modules can be viewed as a subcategory of R-modules, raising questions about identifying R-modules that are also R/I-modules.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding and curiosity about the implications of the module equivalence, with no clear consensus on the deeper meaning of the relationship between R and R/I or the requirements for establishing the module structure.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the nature of the scalar multiplication and the implications of the properties of the quotient ring R/I, as well as the lack of isomorphism between R and R/I.

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Module "equivalence"

There is a problem in a book I'm not quite understanding.
Let M be an R-module and let I=Ann(M). Show that M can be regarder as an R/I-Module where scalar multiplication is given by the rule m(I+r)=mr

I don't understand what they mean by "regarded as". Am I suppose to show there is an isomorphism? (I don't know how to do that between modules over different rings), or just a bijection? Should I create a one-to-one mapping from the scalars R to R/I instead?

Any help is appreciated
 
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Really, they probably just want you to show that the underlying additive group of M, together with that scalar multiplication, is an R/I-module.

Bonus points for explicitly showing that, if \pi is the projection from R to R/I, that r \cdot m = \pi(r) \cdot m. (where the two \cdot symbols refer to the appropriate scalar products)



One main point is that, in the expression r \cdot m where r is in R and m is in M, it doesn't matter if we mean this product as the scalar product on M, or if we are using r to name an element of R/I, and the product is the scalar product on the R/I-module defined in the problem; the result of the arithmetic expression is the same.
 


Ok, thank you Hurkyl!
Just out of curiosity, what exactly does this result mean, the fact that the set M can be regarded as both an R-module and an R/I-module? Is this mostly a consequence of the properties of the quotient ring R/I (for example of, like you pointed out, the canonical homomorphism from R to R/I)?
I'm finding it hard to wrap my head around it because R and R/I are not isomorphic (possibly not even of the same order if finite) yet behave the same as scalars over M?
 


The more opportunities you have to use this fact, the more it will make sense.

You already know that all of the elements of I behave exactly the same as scalar multipliers on M. So what do you get when you impose that they are all congruent? :smile:



Incidentally, there are two well-behaved constructions related to a ring homomorphism f:R --> S.
  • (The underlying group of) any S-module M can be given an R-module structure defined by r\cdot m = f(r)\cdot m.
  • By the above, S itself can be viewed as an R-module. For any R-module M, the (underlying group of) the tensor product S \otimes_R M can be given an S-module structure defined by s \cdot (s' \otimes m) = (ss') \otimes m.
(These constructions extend to transform S-module homomorphisms into R-module ones and R-module into S-module ones respectively)


When S is the quotient ring R/I, the constructions are even more well-behaved. The underlying group of the second construction is just (isomorphic to) the quotient M / IM. Furthermore, the two constructions essentially become one-sided inverses -- applying the first construction and then the second construction gives you a module naturally isomorphic to the one you started with.

Roughly speaking, this means that you can view the entire category of R/I-modules as if it was just a subcategory of R-modules. Another way of saying that is that it's unusually simple to use the module theory of R to study the module theory of R/I. How do you identify which R modules are also R/I modules under this correspondence? They are the ones with I \subseteq Ann(M).
 

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