Moment of inertia (compound object)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia for a compound object consisting of a disk and a ring, both rotating about the same axis. The moment of inertia for the disk is defined as I = (1/2)mR², while the ring's moment of inertia is I = (1/2)m(R₁² + R₂²). When combining these two objects, the total moment of inertia is simply the sum of their individual moments, confirming that I_total = I_disk + I_ring. Additionally, the discussion clarifies the concept of torque as the rotational equivalent of force, emphasizing its dependence on the distance from the axis and the angle of applied force.

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  • Understanding of moment of inertia formulas for solid objects, specifically disks and rings.
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  • Familiarity with calculus, particularly in relation to summations and integrals for moment calculations.
  • Knowledge of vector mathematics, especially cross products and angles in torque calculations.
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I have a disk parallel to the floor rotating about an axis perpindicular to the floor, going through the center of the disk.
Its moment of inertia is I=\frac{1}{2}mR^2
I also have a ring (which I will forbear to describe. A picture is worth a thousand words [or 30-ish, in this case], so please see attatchment) with intertia I=\frac{1}{2}m(R_1^2+R_2^2)
All fine and dandy. But when I place one on top of the other (still rotating about the same axis), to find the moment of inertia, do I just add their individual moments? Or something else?
 

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It can easily be seen from the definition of moment of inertia that if you know the moment of inertia of two objects rotating about the same axis the combined moment of inertia is the sum of the two individual moments of inertia.
 
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Thank you!
I confess--I am deplorably shaky on the definition of the moment of inertia, and all of torque in general.
 
The reason moments of inertia are just given in formulas is because the real definition involves nasty summations and integrals. Take every particle and multiply by the distance from axis squared. For a hoop, its obviously MR^2, but there's a bunch of calculus behind the other formulas, so be thankful for them.

Torque is the rotational equivalent of force. It also depends on the distance from the axis. The longer the arm, the more leverage and the more torque. It is defined as the perpendicular distance, so you need right angles. If a force acts at an angle, the torque is given as rFsintheta, because the sin of the angle yields the perpendicular force. This is also known as a cross product. I hope this helps
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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