Moment of Inertia of a Changing System

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a person grabbing onto a spinning merry-go-round, affecting its angular velocity and moment of inertia. The scenario is set in the context of rotational dynamics, specifically focusing on the conservation of angular momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of angular momentum, questioning the calculations related to the moment of inertia of both the person and the merry-go-round. There are inquiries about the specific values used in the calculations and the implications of using different units for angular velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, noting potential errors in the values used. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these calculations, and participants are actively seeking clarification on the methodology employed.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the use of rpm as a unit for angular velocity, which is not the SI unit, but its application in this context is acknowledged as acceptable due to the nature of the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement



A person grabs on to an already spinning merry-go-round. The person is initially at rest and has a mass of 29.5 kg. They grab and cling to a bar that is 1.70 m from the center of the merry-go-round, causing the angular velocity of the merry-go-round to abruptly drop from 45.0 rpm to 19.0 rpm. What is the moment of inertia of the merry-go-round with respect to its central axis?

Homework Equations



Angular Momentum = I * ω

Momentum is conserved, so L(initial) = L(final), and so, I(initial) * ω(initial) = I(final) * ω(final)

Inertia = MR^2


The Attempt at a Solution



Inertia of the system changes when the person grabs on. So I(final) = I(merry) + I(person)

The inertia of the person is given by MR^2 = 29.5 kg * 1.7^2 = 85.255.

Using the conservation of momentum, here is what I put together:

L(final) = L(person, final) + L(mgr, final) = I(merry) * ω(final) + I(person) * ω(final)
L(final) = I(merry) * 19.0rpm + (82.255) * (19.0)

Solved for L to get L = 60.1094. If L is conserved then that should be the inertia of the merry-go-round. So I solved 60.1094 = I * 45.0rpm for I, which came out to be I = 1.33576. kgm^2. I am not sure where I could have gone wrong with this.
 
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jcd2012 said:
Using the conservation of momentum, here is what I put together:

L(final) = L(person, final) + L(mgr, final) = I(merry) * ω(final) + I(person) * ω(final)
L(final) = I(merry) * 19.0rpm + (82.255) * (19.0)

Solved for L to get L = 60.1094.

Hello, jcd2012. Can you show how you solved for L?
 
TSny said:
Hello, jcd2012. Can you show how you solved for L?

Forgot that . Here:

If L is conserved, then L(initial) = L(final), so L(final) = I(merry) * ω(initial).
So

I(merry) * ω(initial) = I(merry) * ω(final) + I(person) * ω(final). Solving for I(merry), shortened to I:

I * 45rpm = I * 19.0 + 82.255 * 19.0

45I = 19I + 1562.845
27I = 1562.845
I = 60.1094
 
That looks good.
 
TSny said:
That looks good.

It says it is not the right answer though. That is why I am confused.
 
Oh, it looks like you used 82.255 instead of 85.255 when doing the calculation.

Also, note that rpm is not the SI unit for angular velocity. However, in this case it's ok to use rpm since each term in the angular momentum conservation equation has a factor of ω and the conversion factor from rpm to rad/s will cancel out. But be careful in other problems where you might need to convert to rad/s.
 

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