Moment of Inertia of a thin uniform wire

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the moment of inertia of a thin uniform wire bent into a rectangle, with specific dimensions and total mass provided. The context is centered around rotational inertia and its dependence on the shape and mass distribution of the object.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the moment of inertia for different segments of the rectangle, considering the wire as composed of four thin rods. There are attempts to apply known formulas for solid shapes, with some questioning the appropriateness of these equations for a hollow structure. Others express uncertainty about how to determine the masses of the individual sides based on the total mass and their lengths.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of how to approach the problem being explored. Some participants have offered insights into the mass distribution and how it relates to the moment of inertia, while others are still grappling with the calculations and concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the assumption that the wires are very thin, which influences the moment of inertia calculations. Additionally, participants are working with the constraint of needing to derive the masses of the individual parts from the total mass and their respective lengths.

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Homework Statement


A thin uniform wire is bent into a rectangle. The short, vertical sides are of length a, and the long, horizontal sides are of length b. If the total mass is 31.00 grams, a = 25.00 cm and b = 44.30 cm, what is the moment of rotational inertia about an axis through one of the vertical wires?
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Homework Equations


I = 1/3mL^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using the above equation, which is the moment of inertia for a solid rectangle. I knew it wasn't going to be right but I don't have an equation for a hollow rectangle. I tried modifying it by using 1/4 or 1/6 because I think the moment of inertia would be smaller for a hollow rectangle than a solid one.
 
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Think of the object as composed of four thin rods.
 
So the top and bottom would be I= 1/3 mL2 but it's only a portion of the mass, right? The right side would be I = mh2 and the h would be the length b. The only thing I can think of for the left side is the formula for a solid cylinder, but for that you need a radius.
 
Because the wires are assumed to be very thin, the left side has nearly no moment of inertia. You can assume I=0.
 
kelslee28 said:
So the top and bottom would be I= 1/3 mL2 but it's only a portion of the mass, right?
Right.
The right side would be I = mh2 and the h would be the length b.
Right.
The only thing I can think of for the left side is the formula for a solid cylinder, but for that you need a radius.
Think of it as being very thin.
 
Yes, I got it! Thanks a lot. I'm home sick with the flu so this means a lot that someone would help me.
 
I'm having trouble with this problem, too. I don't understand how to get the masses of the individual parts of the rectangle.
 
workinghard said:
I don't understand how to get the masses of the individual parts of the rectangle.
You have the total mass. Figure out the mass of each side, realizing that the mass is proportional to the length.
 

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