Momentum Conservation - so hard

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The discussion focuses on calculating the final velocity of two automobiles after a completely inelastic collision using the principle of momentum conservation. The first car has a mass of 1.4 X 103 kg traveling at 45 km/h [S], and the second car has a mass of 1.3 X 103 kg traveling at 39 km/h [E]. The correct final velocity after the collision is determined to be 30 km/h through vector addition of momentum, correcting initial miscalculations that led to an incorrect answer of 42 km/h.

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Momentum Conservation --- so hard!

Homework Statement


Two automobiles collide at an intersection. One car of mass 1.4 X 10^3 kg is traveling at 45km/h ; the other car of mass 1.3 X 10^3 kg is traveling at 39km/h [E]. If the cars have a completely inelastic collision, what is their velocity just after collision?


Homework Equations


v1m1 + v2m2 = v(m1 + m2)


The Attempt at a Solution



Given information:
m1 = 1.4 X 10^3 kg
m2 = 1.3 X 10^3 kg
v1 = 45km/h --> 12.5 m/s
v2 = 39 km/h [E] --> 10.83 m/s
vf ' = ?

v1m1 + v2m2 = v(m1 + m2)
(12.5)(1.4 X 10^3) + (10.83)(1.3 X 10^3) = v (1.4 X 10^3 + 1.3 X 10^3 kg)
v = 11.7 m/s --> 42 km/H

But the answer that I get is wrong. So anyone please help me how to do this. Thanks.
The correct answer is 30 km/h.
 
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vector addition

Realize that momentum is a vector. Add the momentum vectors to get the total momentum of the cars after they collide and stick together.
 
I am really confused.

Do I do the following:\sqrt{10.8^2 + 12.5^2}

I am not sure what to do since there are so many ways to do this, and I am not sure where to begin.
 
rum2563 said:
Do I do the following:\sqrt{10.8^2 + 12.5^2}
Not exactly. You added the squares of the velocities; you should have added the squares of the momenta = mass*velocity.
 
Oohhh. ok.

I did this:

p1= m1v1
= (1.4 X 10 ^3)(12.5)
= 17500 kg.m/s

p2= m2v2
= (1.3 X 10 ^3)(10.8)
= 14040 kg.m/s

\sqrt{17500^2 + 14040^2}
= 2.24 X 10^4 kg.m/s

Now I think I got it:
2.24 X 10^4 = v (m1 + m2)
v = (2.24 X 10^4)/(1.4 X 10 ^3 + 1.3 X 10 ^3)
v= 8.296296296 m/s
v = 29.86666667 km/h

Therefore, the speed is 30 km/h.

Wow. Thanks for this Doc Al. I appreciate your help very much. You are the best.
 
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