Mom's Bad Idea: Will Bleach Help Cat Pee Smell?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of using bleach to clean cat urine from towels, particularly focusing on the potential chemical reactions between bleach and ammonia, which is commonly associated with the smell of cat urine. Participants explore the safety and effectiveness of various cleaning methods, including the use of enzymatic cleaners and the risks of mixing bleach with ammonia.

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  • One participant expresses concern about the safety of mixing bleach with ammonia, questioning whether the smell of cat urine is indeed due to ammonia.
  • Another participant explains that chloramines are produced when bleach interacts with ammonia, noting that while they are toxic to fish, they are not as harmful to humans at the concentrations typically encountered in a washing machine.
  • Some participants suggest that bleach can oxidize materials, potentially damaging fabrics, and recommend using enzymatic cleaners like Nature's Miracle, which are designed to break down odors effectively.
  • A participant mentions that in a large volume of water, the ammonia from cat urine is unlikely to pose a significant risk when mixed with bleach.
  • There is a suggestion to perform a pre-wash before using bleach to mitigate any potential risks.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that chloramines are used in dental procedures as an alternative to drilling, linking back to the discussion on chemical reactions.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the safety of using bleach with cat urine. There are competing views on the risks involved and the effectiveness of alternative cleaning methods.

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The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the chemical interactions between bleach and ammonia, as well as the effectiveness of various cleaning methods. Participants express differing opinions on the safety and implications of these interactions.

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Cat urine and bleach
So my cat peed on the towels(bu the smell not today) It stunk really bad, like ammonia. Then my mom said it will be fine and put them in the washing machine. As she added the bleach I said that would be a bad idea. How wrong is she?
 
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Assilroc said:
Summary:: Cat urine and bleach

So my cat peed on the towels(bu the smell not today) It stunk really bad, like ammonia. Then my mom said it will be fine and put them in the washing machine. As she added the bleach I said that would be a bad idea. How wrong is she?
Chloramines are produced when bleach comes into contact with ammonia. NH2Cl, NHCl2 and NCl3 are strong oxidizers bit not stronger than bleach. They are toxic to fish but not so toxic to humans. In fact, they are used to disinfect water in most water systems. Gasp! You’ve likely been drinking it your entire life!

At the concentration you are likely to encounter in the washing machine, you are probably as safe as you would be if you used bleach without any ammonia present.

Bleach (chlorine) is nasty stuff too, y’know! It produces trihalomethane in drinking water. Carcinogen, it is.
 
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chemisttree said:
Gasp! You’ve likely been drinking it your entire life!
And swimming in it in the pool.
( Of course no one pees in the pool :smile: ).
 
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Natures miracle brand cleaner has enzymes that break down the stinky molecule in cat piss. Works well. Can be used on color clothing and furniture.

Bleach tends to oxidize everything including the fibers that make your clothes hold together. Burning things with a torch will remove cat odors too.
 
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Within context of a tub full of water, the amount of ammonia in the cat pee won't cause a problem : there will be reaction products, but not enough to jump out of solution.
 
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If you are worried you could insist on doing a pre-wash or a 20min before going serious with the bleach.

By the way, I've just come across what 'chamber lye' meant o0)
 
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