Money makes people act less nice?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the relationship between wealth and behavior, particularly focusing on whether having money influences people to act less kindly or more selfishly. Participants share personal observations, anecdotes, and references to research, examining the dynamics between rich and poor individuals and their perceived niceness or meanness.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that wealth can lead to a sense of entitlement and less kindness, citing personal experiences and observations.
  • Others argue that not all wealthy individuals are mean, noting that many nice rich people exist, while some poor individuals can be unpleasant.
  • A few participants propose that the distinction between rich and poor may be misleading, suggesting that happiness versus unhappiness could be a more relevant factor.
  • There are claims that inherited wealth may correlate with less agreeable behavior compared to self-made wealth.
  • Some participants share anecdotal evidence regarding aggressive driving behaviors associated with certain car brands, linking it to personality traits of their owners.
  • One participant mentions the idea that mean individuals may be more likely to become wealthy, referencing the notion that some CEOs exhibit sociopathic traits.
  • Another participant expresses a belief that wealthy individuals may become defensive due to being targeted by those less fortunate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether wealth inherently makes people less nice. Multiple competing views remain, with some arguing for a correlation between wealth and meanness, while others counter that kindness is not strictly dependent on financial status.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about wealth, behavior, and societal perceptions, but these assumptions are not universally agreed upon. The discussion includes personal anecdotes that may not represent broader trends.

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It's clear that both ends of the economic spectrum feel a sense of entitlement.

Science can explain a lot of things that I've always wondered about (go, science!). In this case, it explains what I've known for a long time but been unable to quite understand: Why do some folks who have a lot more money than others seem to be less nice and more evil to everyone around them?

At 0:50, someone actually takes candy from babies. No, really. At 3:00, we start to see the science unfold before our eyes. Entire management courses could — and should — be taught with the bit starting at 4:40.

http://www.upworthy.com/take-two-no...-just-one-of-them-and-watch-what-happens-next
 
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Oh I don't know - I find that some people become extremely nice when they have just received a lotof money from me :D
 
I wonder if rich vs poor is a red herring. I think they should investigate happy vs unhappy.
 
I know a lot of very nice rich people and very nasty poor people, I agree with micro.
 
LOL. I have noticed that BMW drivers are pretty aggressive. However, I personally find that women don't stop as often when I'm trying to cross the street in a crosswalk. I'll have to note what they're driving now.
 
Evo said:
I know a lot of very nice rich people and very nasty poor people, I agree with micro.

Hmmm... Me too.

Here are the results of my life's research:

I have found that the rich people I know that started from the ground up are very nice.
Those that inherited all their money are generally jerks.

Poor nice people, like myself, are just your average Joes and Josephines, as far as I can tell.
Poor jerks, strike me as sociopaths.

Someone should make a poll of famous rich people, asking if each one is nice, or a jerk.

Here's my list, picked from some list of the top 100 richest people, of the people I have an opinion on:

Bill Gates, self made: Nice guy, but I hate Microsoft. (I'm a Mac guy now)
Warren Buffet, self made: Not sure why I love this guy, but I do
Charles and David Koch, inherited: Total Jerks!
[STRIKE]Michael Bloomberg, self made?: meh. His first employer, straight out of college, gave him a $10,000,000 severance package? Where do I get a job like that?[/STRIKE](financial anomaly)
George Soros*, self made: I love this guy to death
Mark Zuckerberg, self made: Seems like a nice guy​

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* His counterpart, Thomas Peterffy, I just want to strangle! :redface:
 
Borg said:
LOL. I have noticed that BMW drivers are pretty aggressive. ...

I noticed the same thing for the last 30+ years. They were always tailgating me!

I always thought it had to do with the resonance of the engine and gearbox. There is a speed, where the engine and manual transmission, become harmonious, in a beautiful chord. I always assumed Beemers were tuned for Bavarian and German roads. Hence, speed up young Om...

But it's been quite a few years since I've noticed a Beemer tailgating me. I suppose they are all automatics now. :frown:

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Mentors, feel free to move my post over to the geriatric automotive behavioral neuroscience section.
 
Hey, I owned a BMW when I was rich and I used to be super nice, now that I'm poor, not so nice. :devil:

If I had more money, I'd definitely be in a better mood.
 
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Well, I didn't know you when you were rich, and now that you're poor, I find you very agreeable.

btw, was it a stick, or an auto?

ps. One of the vice presidents at my company started out with me at the bottom about 27 years ago. He is not a jerk.
 
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OmCheeto said:
I noticed the same thing for the last 30+ years. They were always tailgating me!
I didn't want to complain about it but yes, a significant fraction of the time when I see someone weaving in and out of traffic and tailgating, it's a BMW.
 
  • #13
I have long believed those fancy brand automobiles are more brandished for a power symbol than enjoyed for their comfort.

A fellow from Palm Beach once told me "It's New money drives Cadillacs. Old money drives Oldsmobiles."

I'd be interested to hear from somebody in law enforcement as to whether there's a brand preference among punks.
 
  • #14
I think wealthy people get sick and tired of being begged and preyed upon by the 'underclass'. Of course, an ostentatious life style does not help matters. I would live quietly in the privacy of a gated home surrounded by undocumented eastern european guards, a safe room with a wine cellar and two years of supplies, and a modest, armored chauffeured limousine. Did I forget to mention the French maids and gunship escort with a SWAT team?
 

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