Most accurate scale for weighing objects

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for the most accurate weighing scale, focusing on the types of scales available, their accuracy, and the requirements for specific applications. Participants explore various factors influencing scale performance, including calibration, measurement principles, and user needs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a scale that can accurately weigh a known 7.6-pound book, expressing dissatisfaction with a scale that showed 7.730 lbs.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to specify the required level of accuracy and precision, noting that scales exist for various needs and costs.
  • A participant questions how the weight of the book was determined, suggesting that scales in pounds may not be as accurate as those using the metric system.
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy of digital bathroom scales, particularly at low weights, and the importance of calibration against known weights.
  • Some participants express a need for scales that can measure with high precision, such as milligram changes in small flasks, or that can show 10 kg as exactly 10 kg with minimal error.
  • Discussion includes the variability in measurements from different scales, with one participant recounting their experience of receiving different weights from three digital scales at a hospital.
  • Questions are posed regarding the technology behind scales, including the use of strain gauges and other advanced principles for achieving high accuracy.
  • One participant mentions the importance of temperature compensation in quality scales and the need for periodic calibration with reference weights.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the accuracy and suitability of different types of scales, indicating that there is no consensus on a single best option. Multiple competing perspectives on scale technology and user requirements remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in consumer scales, such as the lack of tare and calibration functions, and the variability in accuracy based on the type of scale and its intended use. The discussion also reflects differing requirements for accuracy based on the specific application, such as weighing humans versus laboratory measurements.

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Hello, What is the most accurate weighting scale in existence and what kind to look for if you want accuracy. The other day I got this scale. I put a known 7.6 pound book. It showed up as 7.730 lbs so I returned it. I need something that can show exactly the weight. What kinds of scale must I look for?
 
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Secan said:
I need something that can show exactly the weight.

This statement has no technical meaning.
You need to specify what level of accuracy and precision you require and proceed accordingly. There exist scales that will meet almost any requirement. The will cost proportionally and might require periodic calibration.
 
hutchphd said:
This statement has no technical meaning.
You need to specify what level of accuracy and precision you require and proceed accordingly. There exist scales that will meet almost any requirement. The will cost proportionally and might require periodic calibration.

I just need the scale to show a 7.6 pound book as 7.6 pound weight. Would common scales do that? What are the errors usually. And what kind of weighting scale has such accuracy (for weighting humans)? Budget is just below $500.
 
I wonder how you know the book is 7.60 pounds? Another scale that you have calibrated, or you trust due to familiarity? Because the metric system is used in precision and scientific work, a scale in pounds probably won't be as accurate. Or specialized and more expensive. In picking a scale you need to know what accuracy you require and what range of weight you need to weigh. Digital bathroom scales are often inaccurate at low weight like your book. Scales, of course, you measure against real physical weights. My needs are to accurately measure milligram changes in 500g flasks or 99.999% accuracy, for example.
 
shjacks45 said:
I wonder how you know the book is 7.60 pounds? Another scale that you have calibrated, or you trust due to familiarity? Because the metric system is used in precision and scientific work, a scale in pounds probably won't be as accurate. Or specialized and more expensive. In picking a scale you need to know what accuracy you require and what range of weight you need to weigh. Digital bathroom scales are often inaccurate at low weight like your book. Scales, of course, you measure against real physical weights. My needs are to accurately measure milligram changes in 500g flasks or 99.999% accuracy, for example.

I just need a very accurate baby scale with typical range of 0 to 44 lbs. And I'd use it for other things as well so i want to get the most accurate scale that can show 10kg as exactly 10kg or error of 0.5 ounce.
 
Secan said:
I just need a very accurate baby scale with typical range of 0 to 44 lbs. And I'd use it for other things as well so i want to get the most accurate scale that can show 10kg as exactly 10kg or error of 0.5 ounce.
The other day they weighed me on 3 different digital scales, at a hospital, and got 3 different weights. Baby scales and adult (diet) scales have no need to be that accurate. I'd think the maker of the scale was more concerned if a baby fell out of the "weighing pan". Both adults and babies on scales are moving so no absolute accuracy. Most consumer scales don't even have a Tare function and never a Calibrate function. Quality scales like Mettler or OHAUS are temerature compensated and calibrating with NBS referenced weights was right on (off by .0001 gram). Still have to go thru that step.
 
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shjacks45 said:
The other day they weighed me on 3 different digital scales, at a hospital, and got 3 different weights. Baby scales and adult (diet) scales have no need to be that accurate. I'd think the maker of the scale was more concerned if a baby fell out of the "weighing pan". Both adults and babies on scales are moving so no absolute accuracy. Most consumer scales don't even have a Tare function and never a Calibrate function. Quality scales like Mettler or OHAUS are temerature compensated and calibrating with NBS referenced weights was right on (off by .0001 gram). Still have to go thru that step.

Do all these scales use strain gauges or other more exotic principles like muons cross sections? What scales use such principles?
 
shjacks45 said:
I wonder how you know the book is 7.60 pounds? Another scale that you have calibrated, or you trust due to familiarity? Because the metric system is used in precision and scientific work, a scale in pounds probably won't be as accurate. Or specialized and more expensive. In picking a scale you need to know what accuracy you require and what range of weight you need to weigh. Digital bathroom scales are often inaccurate at low weight like your book. Scales, of course, you measure against real physical weights. My needs are to accurately measure milligram changes in 500g flasks or 99.999% accuracy, for example.

Does it use strain gauges? What principle or technolgy or implementation is the most accurate ever?
 

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