Mother bear kills cub and then itself

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The discussion centers around a reported incident involving a mother bear that killed its cub and subsequently took its own life. Participants explore the implications of this behavior, questioning the mental capacity of animals and the potential for suicidal behavior in response to distressing conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express curiosity about whether the bear's actions could be considered "normal" behavior for animals under extreme stress, suggesting parallels with other animals in similar situations.
  • Others propose that the mother bear's actions were likely driven by panic rather than a conscious desire to harm itself or its cub.
  • There is skepticism regarding the portrayal of the incident in the media, with some suggesting that the article may have anthropomorphized the bear's actions to evoke human emotions.
  • Participants discuss the broader implications of human behavior towards animals, expressing disgust at the treatment of bears and questioning the empathy of those involved in such situations.
  • One participant mentions that it is not uncommon for bears to exhibit self-destructive behavior, referencing the article's claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the motivations behind the bear's actions, with some arguing for panic-driven behavior while others suggest a more complex emotional response. The discussion includes varying opinions on the media's representation of the incident and the ethical considerations surrounding animal treatment.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of animal behavior, highlighting the uncertainty surrounding the motivations and emotional states of animals in distress. The discussion also reflects a range of emotional responses to the treatment of animals in captivity.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in animal behavior, ethics in animal treatment, and the psychological implications of distress in animals may find this discussion relevant.

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Alright so this is one of the more bizarre articles I have read in recent history...thought you might be interested.

The witness also claimed that a mother bear broke out its cage when it heard its cub howl in fear before a worker punctured its stomach to milk the bile.

The workers ran away in fear when they saw the mother bear rushing to its cub's side.

Unable to free the cub from its restraints, the mother hugged the cub and eventually strangled it.

It then dropped the cub and ran head-first into a wall, killing itself.

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Asia/Story/A1Story20110805-292947.html


Feel free to discuss the article but I was more interested in the mental capacity of the bear to perform this. Is this "normal"? Do other animals display suicidal behavior under sustained harsh conditions - like many of the cows, and chickens experience before being slaughtered?

Poor bears :(
 
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More likely, it was panic...both strangling the cub trying to carry it away, and then injuring herself so badly running into walls looking for an escape.
 
I really doubt it was trying to kill itself. It was probably just very scared and did something stupid.
 
Some of these chinese people make me sick.
 
A lot of things some people do make me sick. Most people have better sense.

I wonder if the article was doctored to give anguishing human qualities to the mother bear so they could sell more reprints.
 
The world's suffering never ceases to amaze. Distribution of such articles does help bring light to bad situations and puts pressure on them to stop.
 
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Some times i am disgusted by human nature, this is one of them.
 
Anthropomorphism? Is that the term for when humans project human stuff onto rocks and animals?
 
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Anthropomorphism? Is that the term for when humans project human stuff onto rocks and animals?

I'm sorry, but the way you word this I can't help but think of monkeys throwing poop.

As an aside, this thread has made me wonder about how Gus is doing at the Central Park Zoo (http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/06/after-24-years-suddenly-alone-at-the-central-park-zoo/").
 
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unbearable for mother.
 
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It even says in the article it's not uncommon for the bears to try to kill themselves
 
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Some of these chinese people make me sick.

Couldn't have said better...

The people who do this realize the bears are suffering, because they try to suicide. But they just don't care, how can they have no empathy at all?
 

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