MHB Motion of Falling Body w/ Varying Drag: Farah's Q on Yahoo Answers

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on the motion of Luke Skywalker as he falls from a height of 100,000 meters with gravitational acceleration of 10 m/s² and a drag coefficient of 4. Using Newton's second law, the equations for velocity and displacement are derived, resulting in a velocity function of v(t) = 250(1 - e^(-t/25)) and a displacement function x(t) = 250(-25e^(-t/25) - t + 425). The limiting velocity is calculated to be 250 m/s. After 200 seconds, the estimated height of Luke from the ground is approximately 56,248 meters, indicating he would still be well above the ground when the Millennium Falcon attempts a rescue. The calculations demonstrate the effects of drag on falling motion in a detailed mathematical context.
MarkFL
Gold Member
MHB
Messages
13,284
Reaction score
12
Here is the question:

Luke Skywalker (m=100kg) fell from rest off the antenna below the cloud city of Bespin (height=100000 m).

Assume that he missed the Millennium Falcon waiting below and continued to plummet. Suppose the gravitational acceleration of Bespin is 10 m/s^2, and the force of drag provides resistance proportional to the magnitude of his velocity, with a drag coefficient of k=4. This question is also from my differential class thank you in advance.

Additional Details:

a) Find Luke's velocity and displacement.

b) Find Luke's limiting velocity.

c) Suppose it would take 200 seconds for the millennium falcon to shake of the pursuing TIE fighters and turn around for a second rescue attempt. How far from the ground would the rescue be made?

I have posted a link there to this topic so the OP can see my work.
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
Re: Farah's question at Yahoo! Answers ragarding motion of a falling body where drag varies as veloc

Hello Farah,

I would begin with Newton's second law of motion:

$$ma=F$$

Since acceleration $a$ is defined to be the time rate of change of velocity $v$, we may write:

$$m\frac{dv}{dt}=F$$

We have two forces acting on Luke...the force of gravity and drag, which we are told is proportional to his velocity, hence:

$$m\frac{dv}{dt}=mg-kv$$

We subtract the force due to drag since it opposes the motion. Treating $dv$ and $dt$ as differentials, we may separate variables to obtain:

$$\frac{dv}{mg-kv}=\frac{dt}{m}$$

Integrating we find:

$$\int\frac{1}{mg-kv}\,dv=\frac{1}{m}\int\,dt$$

$$\ln(mg-kv)=C-\frac{kt}{m}$$

Converting from logarithmic to exponential form, we find:

$$mg-kv=Ce^{-\frac{kt}{m}}$$ where $$0<C$$

Solving for $v$, we obtain:

$$v(t)=\frac{mg}{k}-Ce^{-\frac{kt}{m}}$$

Now, we are told Luke begins at rest, which means $$v(0)=0$$, and so from this initial value, we may determine the parameter $C$:

$$v(0)=\frac{mg}{k}-C=0\,\therefore\,C=\frac{mg}{k}$$

And so the solution satisfying the IVP is:

$$v(t)=\frac{mg}{k}-\frac{mg}{k}e^{-\frac{kt}{m}}=\frac{mg}{k}\left(1-e^{-\frac{kt}{m}} \right)$$

With $k=4\,\dfrac{\text{kg}}{\text{s}},\,m=100\text{ kg},\,g=10\,\dfrac{\text{m}}{\text{s}^2}$, we then have:

$$v(t)=250\left(1-e^{-\frac{t}{25}} \right)$$

Next, we may determine Luke's position $x(t)$ above the ground by using the definition:

$$\frac{dx}{dt}\equiv v(t)$$

If we orient our vertical $x$-axis such that the origin is on the ground and the positive direction is up, or opposing velocity, we then have:

$$\frac{dx}{dt}=250\left(e^{-\frac{t}{25}}-1 \right)$$

Separating variables, we obtain:

$$dx=250\left(e^{-\frac{t}{25}}-1 \right)\,dt$$

and integrating:

$$\int\,dx=250\int e^{-\frac{t}{25}}-1\,dt$$

$$x(t)=250\left(-25e^{-\frac{t}{25}}-t \right)+C$$

Now using the fact that $x(0)=100000$, we may use this to determine the parameter $C$:

$$x(0)=250\left(-25 \right)+C=100000\,\therefore C=106250$$

And so the solution satisfying the IVP is:

$$x(t)=250\left(-25e^{-\frac{t}{25}}-t \right)+106250=250\left(-25e^{-\frac{t}{25}}-t+425 \right)$$

Now we may answer the questions:

a) Find Luke's velocity and displacement.

$$v(t)=250\left(1-e^{-\frac{t}{25}} \right)$$

$$x(t)=250\left(-25e^{-\frac{t}{25}}-t+425 \right)$$

b) Find Luke's limiting velocity.

$$\lim_{t\to\infty}v(t)=250\,\frac{\text{m}}{\text{s}}$$

c) Suppose it would take 200 seconds for the millennium falcon to shake of the pursuing TIE fighters and turn around for a second rescue attempt. How far from the ground would the rescue be made?

$$x(200)\approx56247.9033585756\text{ m}$$
 
Suppose ,instead of the usual x,y coordinate system with an I basis vector along the x -axis and a corresponding j basis vector along the y-axis we instead have a different pair of basis vectors ,call them e and f along their respective axes. I have seen that this is an important subject in maths My question is what physical applications does such a model apply to? I am asking here because I have devoted quite a lot of time in the past to understanding convectors and the dual...
Insights auto threads is broken atm, so I'm manually creating these for new Insight articles. In Dirac’s Principles of Quantum Mechanics published in 1930 he introduced a “convenient notation” he referred to as a “delta function” which he treated as a continuum analog to the discrete Kronecker delta. The Kronecker delta is simply the indexed components of the identity operator in matrix algebra Source: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/what-exactly-is-diracs-delta-function/ by...
Back
Top