Motion with a changing acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a boat that slows down due to a friction force proportional to its speed. The participants are tasked with finding the time it takes for the boat to decelerate from an initial speed to a final speed after the engine is turned off.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration, noting the need for calculus to handle the changing acceleration due to friction. There are attempts to set up equations of motion and integrate to find the time required for deceleration.

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Several participants have offered insights into the equations of motion and integration techniques, suggesting a collaborative exploration of the problem. There is an ongoing examination of the relationship between acceleration and velocity, with some participants questioning the steps and reasoning behind the integration process.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, focusing on the mathematical relationships and transformations necessary to solve the problem without providing a complete solution.

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Homework Statement


A boat, whose mass is m, is traveling at a speed of v_i when its engine is shut off. The magnitude of the friction force f between boat and water is proportional to the speed v of the boat: f=kv. Find the time t for the boat to slow down to speed v_f

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The Attempt at a Solution


I think there should be some transformations with the help of calculus, but I really don't have any ideas.
 
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fizics said:

Homework Statement


A boat, whose mass is m, is traveling at a speed of v_i when its engine is shut off. The magnitude of the friction force f between boat and water is proportional to the speed v of the boat: f=kv. Find the time t for the boat to slow down to speed v_f


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I think there should be some transformations with the help of calculus, but I really don't have any ideas.

Start by writing the general equation of motion relating F, m and a. Now, you have an additional equation above due to the varying resistance force as a function of v. These two equations are related.

Now look at the general kinematic equations of motion in a constant acceleration with the usual forms of v= and x= ... Those are simplifications where integrations had simple answers because the acceleration was constant. Re-write the general forms of those equations, and look at what changes when the acceleration is not constant.

That should get you started. Show us your calculations as you work through this...
 
f= ma= kv, so a= (kv)/m. Thus,
v_f - v_i = ∫a dt (from 0 to t) = (k/m)* ∫v dt (from 0 to t) = ?
 
Hi,

F=kv=ma

\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{Kv}{m}

dt=\frac{m}{kv} dv

t=\int_{vi}^{vf} \frac{m}{kv} \ \ dv

since K and m are constants therefore

t=\frac{m}{k} \int_{vi}^{vf} \frac{1}{v} \ \ dv

then you have to integrate it...

right?
 
Bright Wang said:
Hi,

F=kv=ma

\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{Kv}{m}

dt=\frac{m}{kv} dv

t=\int_{vi}^{vf} \frac{m}{kv} \ \ dv

since K and m are constants therefore

t=\frac{m}{k} \int_{vi}^{vf} \frac{1}{v} \ \ dv

then you have to integrate it...

right?

I don't have the answer but I think it's right. How do you come up with this? Is it because in F=kv=ma, there's v, and you want to have a dv in the expression?
 
hmm you said that... "f= ma= kv"

basically you use the fact
a=\frac{dv}{dt}

can you integrate it and get the equation?
 
t= (m/k)*ln(v_f/v_i)
 

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