Moving object on a moving slope

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The original poster is exploring the dynamics of a mass sliding down a slope that is also in motion. The problem involves understanding the forces at play when the slope moves in a direction opposite to the motion of the mass.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the types of effects to consider, such as identifying forces acting on the mass and the slope. There are suggestions to clarify the nature of the slope's movement and to draw free body diagrams to visualize the forces involved.

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Some participants have provided guidance on identifying forces, while others have raised questions about the specifics of the slope's motion and its implications. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the direction and nature of the slope's movement.

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The original poster notes a lack of clarity in the teacher's assignment regarding the specifics of the slope's movement and the desired outcomes of the analysis.

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Hello
Our teacher asked us today,to figure out,what the effect would be if the generic slope we use in most exercises would move too.That means,a mass m is sliding downwards to the right from a slope that is moving to the left.
So,I don't want you guys to solve my home work for me,but I hoped to find here some keywords for things I have to look up.I honestly don't know what to google to solve this problem.
Thank you!

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what kind of effect would you want? observations? or identify all forces? make it clear.
 
cheah10 said:
what kind of effect would you want? observations? or identify all forces? make it clear.
hello cheah10!
She didn't specify,would you kindly provide me with keywords for both?thanks!
 
If you are asking for the affecting forces ,,
They will be as the following :
the components of the gravitational force acting on the mass + the normal force on the mass from the moving slope + the frictional force .
The resultant acceleration of the net forces is measured relatively to the movement of the moving slope if it goes with an acceleration , if the moving slope has a constant speed , "no acceleration" the resultant acceleration might be measured like the static slope.

I think that might be a reasonable intuition but I'm not very sure.
 
ok, I'll guide you from here. 1st, tell me, what are all the forces you can identify? Maybe it's better if you draw a free body diagram for both the slope and the mass, and upload it here.
 
It depends why the slope is moving. I would guess that the idea is the slope consists of a wedge which can slide on surface of a different angle (usually horizontal). It might help to start with an extreme case. What if the wedge is much lighter than the mass on it and there's very little friction?
 
haruspex said:
It depends why the slope is moving. I would guess that the idea is the slope consists of a wedge which can slide on surface of a different angle (usually horizontal). It might help to start with an extreme case. What if the wedge is much lighter than the mass on it and there's very little friction?

I understood that the slope is moving in a direction against to the motion of the object moving on it. not in a vertical motion , Where in the question did he specify that ?

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Maged Saeed said:
I understood that the slope is moving in a direction against to the motion of the object moving on it. not in a vertical motion ,
I didn't suggest the wedge was moving purely vertically. As I wrote, it's probably to be considered as moving horizontally, but it could be more general.
As for 'against', it depends what you mean by that. In most such problems, the wedge is moving only because of the normal force from the mass. So, yes, it moves in the opposite direction to the mass's horizontal motion, but I wouldn't describe that as 'against' it.
 
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