MRI and Fourier transform to form an image

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the functioning of MRI technology, specifically focusing on the role of the Fourier Transform in image formation and the nature of the signals received from atomic nuclei. Participants explore the relationship between magnetic fields, radio waves, and signal strength in MRI applications.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about how the Fourier Transform is applied to determine the original location of atoms based on the received radio wave signals.
  • Another participant explains that the variation of the magnetic field along the body axis causes protons to emit radio waves at different frequencies, which the Fourier Transform can extract to locate the signal sources.
  • A question is raised about the possibility of strengthening the received signal by increasing the strength of the radio waves directed at the atoms.
  • One participant clarifies that the MRI signal originates from transitions between nuclear spin states and that increasing the radio wave strength does not enhance the signal due to saturation; instead, increasing the magnetic field strength is suggested as a more effective method.
  • Another participant mentions that the frequency of the emitted radio wave is related to the spin of the dipole, proposing that higher spin frequencies lead to higher frequency radio waves.
  • A clarification is made regarding the terminology of spin, emphasizing that it is the precession of magnetic moments around magnetic field lines that generates the radio frequency signal, not the spin itself.
  • A participant poses a question about the creation of a remote magnetic field, speculating on the use of a pulse weapon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the nature of the signals and the mechanisms of MRI technology. There is no consensus on the effectiveness of different methods to enhance signal strength, and some technical clarifications lead to further exploration of concepts without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Discussions include assumptions about the relationship between signal strength and radio wave intensity, as well as the implications of magnetic field strength on signal generation. Some participants reference external sources for further information.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals studying MRI technology, nuclear magnetic resonance, or those curious about the underlying physics of medical imaging techniques.

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I read about how MRI works briefly, by flipping the water molecules using a magnetic field to the correct state then send the radio wave to these atoms and have it bounces back to be received by receiver coils and apply Fourier Transform to figure out the imaging. My question is, how does Fourier Transform works in this case in the receiver coil to figure out the original location of the atom, is it based on the intensity of the radio wave or something else?
 
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The magnetic field varies along one axis of the body, so protons in your head emit radio waves of a slightly different frequency than protons in your feet. The Fourier transform allows one to extract the different frequencies from the overall radio signal in other to figure out where each part of the signal is coming from.
 
So, is the signal received from the atoms like a radio wave? I understand the signal is weak because you need coils right around the body but is it possible to strengthen this signal? Stronger signal directed at the atom would have a stronger signal bounces back? I'm talking about receiving it like a radio signal, if it's possible and someone done it before.
 
In MRI the signal comes from transitions between two nuclear spin states. The difference in energy between the states is small (hence, the transition is associated with the absorption and emission of low-energy radio waves), which also means that the difference in population between the lower-energy spin state and higher-energy spin state is small. The difference between these two populations defines the strength of your signal. You cannot increase the signal by increasing the strength of the radio wave pulse because the radio wave (in most cases) already saturates the signal. The most practical way of increasing the signal would be to increase the strength of the magnetic field, which increases the energy difference between the two nuclear spin states (alternatively, one could decrease the temperature of the sample, but this is not practical for biological samples). For more discussion see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_magnetic_resonance#Sensitivity
 
That makes sense. Based on this youtube video, the radio frequency is proportional to the spin of the dipole. So if it spins at higher frequency then it would emit a radio wave of higher frequency, I think.
 
Using precise terminology is important here. Spin refers to the intrinsic angular momentum of the nuclei, and the spin of the nuclei does not directly cause the radio signal. Rather, it is the precession of the magnetic moments of the nuclei around the magnetic field lines that directly generates the radio frequency signal.
 
How do you create a remote(long range) magnetic field? Does it take some kind of pulse weapon?
 

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