Multipole Expansion: Quadrupole Moment Calculation

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The problem involves calculating the quadrupole moment for a system of four point charges located at specified coordinates. The goal is to find the first non-zero term in the multipole expansion for the electrostatic potential at large distances.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the quadrupole moment after determining that the monopole and dipole moments are zero. There are inquiries about the proper use of indices in the quadrupole moment formula and how to compute the components of the resulting matrix.

Discussion Status

Some participants are clarifying the meaning of the indices and the coordinates involved in the calculations. There is ongoing exploration of how to compute specific components of the quadrupole moment matrix, with some guidance provided on the process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the mapping of coordinate indices to charge indices, as well as the specific values of the coordinates involved in the calculations.

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Homework Statement



Four point charges: q at a^z; q at -a^z; -q at a^y and -q at -a^y
where ^z and ^y are the unit vectors along the z and y axes.


Homework Equations




Find the approximate expression (i.e. calculate the first non-zero term in the multipole expansion) for the electrostatic potential at large distances.


The Attempt at a Solution



So far I have worked that the monople and dipole moment is zero. So i realize I need to move onto the quadrupole moment. Which is what I'm struggling with.

The formula is Qij= Ʃ(i) qi (3RiRj-R^2(δij))

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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You can simply calculate the sum for every pair (i,j). The result is a matrix with 9 components.

However, you should not use the index i for a coordinate and the charge index at the same time. Wikipedia has a better version:
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I still don't properly understand? What do you mean every pair (i,j)?
 
Calculate Q11: simply insert i=1 and j=1 everywhere.
When you are done, calculate Q12, and Q13, and so on.

Q23 as example:
$$Q_{23}=\sum_l q_l (3r_{2l}r_{3l}-r_l^2 \delta_{23})$$
##\delta_{23}=0##, therefore
$$Q_{23}=q(3*0*a-a^2*0) + q(3*0*(-a)-a^2*0) - q(3*a*0-a^2*0) - q(3*(-a)*0-a^2*0)=0$$

It is not necessary/useful to write PMs, I see this thread in the subscribed threads.
 
mfb said:
You can simply calculate the sum for every pair (i,j). The result is a matrix with 9 components.
641f2fa691959ec8094e7d055345c686.png

Can you speak more about what the r_il and r_jl elements map to, using the coordinates used in this problem? Specifically, what is 0 and what is a/-a? I'm having a brain-cramp about it... and I know it's something straightforward.
 
Those are values taken from the initial problem. a is part of coordinates, and 0 is just zero.
l is the index of the charges, i and j are numbers for coordinates (x=1, y=2, z=3).
 
Perfect, thank you VERY MUCH!
 

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