Must You Have a Card in Hand to Ask for It in Go Fish?

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The discussion centers around the rules of the card game Go Fish, specifically whether a player must have a card in hand to ask for it. Participants explore the implications of both interpretations of the rule and how they affect gameplay.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if a player must hold a card in hand to ask for it, noting potential problems with both interpretations.
  • Another participant asserts that the game functions as intended only if players must have a card to ask for it, suggesting that otherwise, the game could devolve into unproductive gameplay.
  • A different participant reflects on their experience playing Go Fish in the past, indicating that the rules they followed required players to have a card in hand to ask for it.
  • Concerns are raised about the fairness and strategy of allowing players to ask for cards they do not possess, which could lead to a repetitive cycle of asking for cards.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of holding a card to ask for it, with no consensus reached on the correct interpretation of the rules.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference personal experiences and interpretations of the rules, highlighting that there may be variations in how the game is played across different contexts or generations.

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Playing Go Fish with my granddaughter.

Is there a rule that says I must have a card in my hand in order to ask for it? I do not see such a rule.

I can see both ways leading to problems:

Suppose I must have one:
  1. I've got a hand of 3 cards, all of which are 7s.
  2. I just asked if she has any 7s, and she told me to go fish. I pick up a 2.
  3. On her turn, she steals my 2 (she has a preternatural ability to ask for the card I've just picked up before I've even inserted it into my hand. It happens a statistically significant number of times (like, >50%), and she doesn't cheat).
  4. So now I'm back to only 7s.
  5. I have no choice but to ask her if she has any 7s again, even though I know she does not.

Suppose I do not need to have one:
  1. I have only 7s. I know she doesn't have any.
  2. On her turn, she asks if I have any 2s. I tell her to Go Fish.
  3. On my turn, I ask if she has any 2s abdn steal them all.
  4. (I mean, I guess she might not have any 2s since she's allowed to ask for cards she does not have.)
Essentially, allowing this means a player tips their hand every time they open their mouth, and the game degenerates into tit-for-tat theft. Either that, or each player keeps asking for things they don't have in a kind of circling-the-wagons ploy.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
  1. I have no choice but to ask her if she has any 7s again, even though I know she does not.
That's the game.
 
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Hornbein said:
That's the game.
Yes. It's the only way the game doesn't fall apart.

What's unusual is that it is not part of the rules.

Whats to stop my gd from doing exactly what I suggested? What am I gonna tell her? It's against the rules? It isn't.
 
Huh. I played Go Fish in 1960 with real cards (!) and those were the rules. You can tell her Supergrandpa said so.
 

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