My expansion cloud chamber movie

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a video showcasing the operation of a Wilson cloud chamber, specifically focusing on the observation of particle tracks from alpha and cosmic rays. Participants explore the implications of copyright issues related to the video's music and analyze specific events depicted in the video, such as decay or collision processes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares a video of their Wilson cloud chamber, detailing its construction and the types of particles observed.
  • Another participant advises against adding music to videos due to potential copyright issues, particularly in Germany.
  • A participant identifies a potential decay or collision process occurring at a specific timestamp in the video.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the legality of using third-party music in the video, questioning whether proper permissions were obtained.
  • A participant explains the copyright acknowledgment process on YouTube and describes the implications of acknowledging a copyright match.
  • Another participant notes that the video remains blocked in Germany despite the acknowledgment of copyright content.
  • A participant suggests that there are methods to access blocked YouTube videos.
  • A version of the video without sound is provided as an alternative.
  • A participant presents a frame from the video, speculating about the nature of a collision or decay event and its relation to the alpha particle energy from the radium paint.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the copyright implications of using music in the video, with some asserting that the video remains blocked in Germany while others discuss the acknowledgment process. The discussion about the specific events in the video also shows varying interpretations without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the complexities of copyright law as it pertains to YouTube, including the acknowledgment of third-party content and its effects on video accessibility. There are unresolved questions regarding the legality of the music used and the effectiveness of the acknowledgment process.

Russ Edmonds
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Hi all,
below is a video showing a compilation of many expansions of my Wilson cloud chamber.
The tracks shown are mostly alpha and cosmic rays. The chamber uses a rubber bulb from a turkey baster as the expansion piston. The object in the chamber is a cork with a radium paint coated pin. I'm using a constant clearing field ( not turning it off during expansion ).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSvgfk12-RU
 
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Please don't add music to videos, youtube will block the movies in Germany and I guess the music is not relevant anyway.
 
Decay or collision process shown at 16.73 seconds

I acknowledged the third party music content on youtube so the ban in Germany should be lifted.

I think a decay or collison process is shown at 16.73 second into the movie.

Russ
 
Russ Edmonds said:
I acknowledged the third party music content on youtube so the ban in Germany should be lifted.
Do you pay royalties to that third party source for each person that views your videos? Did you ask that group if it's okay to use their music without compensation? I strongly suspect the answer is "no". Acknowledging that you stole something does not make the theft okay.

Did you renegotiate the contract between youtube and GEMA? I *know* you didn't do that. Your video will remain blocked in Germany until that contract is renegotiated or until you remove the music from your video.
 
Copyright holders submit to youtube samples of their copyrighted material for example music and video files. Every video uploaded to youtube is scanned for a match against this database of samples. If a match is found the person who uploaded the video can deny or acknowledge the match. If he acknowledges the match, he agrees to the terms and conditions that the copyright holder has established for this specific piece of copyrighted material. I acknowledged the match and the terms and conditions that the copyright holder wanted was an ad to be played after my video is played saying you can buy this music from amazon. This process of acknowledging the third party match was called by youtube a “win win” because the copyright holder gets free advertising and the person who uploaded the video gets to use the third party copyrighted material. In some cases the copyright holder wants the video containing the copyrighted material removed from youtube. In this case the person who uploaded the video get a copyright strike against his youtube account and starts to lose permissions to do things on youtube. Before I acknowledged the match my youtube video manager said I had an copyright ID match and the video was banned in Germany. After I acknowledged the match my video manager said that the third party content was acknowledged and it no longer said the video was banned in Germany. I also noticed the ad that now shows up after my video plays. I was going to remove the music from this video but the more I learned about the copyright ID match and acknowledge process I decided to leave the music in. Considering that youtube call this a “win win” am I wrong?
Russ
 
I don't know who wins, but the video is still blocked here.
 
Are you in Germany?

Russ
 
mfb said:
I don't know who wins, but the video is still blocked here.

I'm sure you're aware that there are solutions to blocked YouTube videos.
 
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Here is a version without sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbLowL_jIs0
 
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Here is a frame from the expansion cloud chamber movie that I think shows a collision and/or decay. The range and ionization of the two collision/decay products seem consistent with the alpha particle energy from the radium paint coated pin. However I don't see the alpha particle track leading to the collision.

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