Need 2D plot of plane wave, cylindrical & spherical wave

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The discussion revolves around plotting different types of wave functions: plane waves, cylindrical waves, and spherical waves, represented mathematically in terms of exponential functions. Participants are exploring how to visualize these waves using MATLAB, particularly focusing on the expressions for each wave type and the implications of their mathematical forms.

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  • Participants discuss their attempts to plot a plane wave using MATLAB, questioning how to correctly represent cylindrical and spherical waves. There is confusion regarding the use of the variable "r" in these contexts and the implications of different wave expressions.

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Several participants have shared their MATLAB code and observations about the plots generated. There is an ongoing examination of the mathematical representations of the waves, with some participants questioning the accuracy of their expressions and the interpretation of the resulting plots. The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback and corrections to each other's understanding.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the dimensionality of the plots and the nature of the wave functions being visualized. There is mention of the need for further understanding of the mathematical fundamentals related to wave functions and their representations in MATLAB.

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plane wave is represented as exp (ik.r) and the
cylindrical wave as 1/sqrt(r) *exp(ik.r) and the
spherical wave as 1/r*exp(ik.r)

Have anyone tried to plot these waves? How to do it?

Attempt: in Matlab assuming k=1

>> x=linspace(-1,1,100);
>> for(ii=1:100)
fp(ii)=exp(i*x(ii));
end
>> [x,fp]=meshgrid(x,fp);
>> mesh(x,real(fp))

gave me plane surface that is inclined in the graph however I still need to create Cylindrical wave and spherical wave. I am confused on how to use " r " for cylindrical and spherical wavefronts.
 
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Hello Allam, welcome to PF :)

I understand the planar wave expression, ##{\bf k}## and ##{\bf r}## are vectors and the inner product ##{\bf k}\cdot{\bf r}## makes it a planar wave.
What you then render seems one-dimensional to me (not familiar with MATLAB :( ), k has disappeared (probably ok: k = 1,0,0 or so).

##i## in Matlab ? is ##i^2 = -1## ?

Is 1/sqrt(r) *exp(ik.r) really the expression for a cylindrical wave (yes, Bessel function for large ##|{\bf r}|## -- you confused me because I read it as ##{\bf k}\cdot{\bf r}## again, but you mean ## kr##)
You could render this similarly one-dimensionally along a ray. Same for the spherical guy.


I suppose you did google planar wave images and cylindrical wave images already ? All struggle with the problem that you need too many dimensions if you want a full picture.
 
I assumed k=1 and ignored the time dependence.
By the By k is not vector it is scalar and it is exp(ik(n.r)) where n is unit normal vector to r

Iam interested in the variation of amplitude in the space. I have developed Matlab code for plotting and in the plot from the color code one can see that amplitude
planewave.png
sphericalwave.png
cylindricalwave.png
varies differently for different waves.
 
Strange. Amplitude for planar wave should be a constant.
Looking at the MATLAB code, I suppose the plot shows the real part only.

And if ## {\bf n} \perp {\bf r} ##, then ##{\bf n} \cdot {\bf r} = 0##.

I wonder what I see in the pictures. Top one shows about 4.5 periods of a plane wave in the horizontal direction. Vertically ?
Lower two pics ?
 
True , Thank You for correcting me in that n is parallel to r. n is unit vector in the direction of propagation and r is the position vector. I have written another MATLAB code which goes like this for plane wave generation:
x=linspace(0,99);
y=linspace(0,99);
r=sqrt((x.*x)+(y.*y));
for j=1:100
pw(j)=exp(i*(x(j)+y(j)));
end
[r,pw]=meshgrid(r,pw);
mesh(real(pw))
All the 3 pictures show propagation horizontally. In the first one as you rightly said there are 4.5 periods and beam does not diverge.it carries forward its intensity which is constant. In the second and the third the spherical and the cylindrical diverge and intensity diminishes rapidly in case of spherical than cylindrical. the plot actually gives the intensity information and not amplitude.since intensity is square(amplitude). it goes in line. Yeah! In MATLAB "i" means imaginary number of value sqrt(-1).
 
please be informed its not the intensity! i guess it is just the real part of complex amplitude !
 
pw(j)=exp(i*(x(j)+y(j)));
This doesn't look good, unless you actually mean a planar wave with a k vector (1,1,0). And you are plotting the real part of the wave function along the line x=y anyway, so it shouldn't give a different picture ?
 
yes ! iam plotting along x=y only. i can choose any values of x and y however i need to ensure that they contain same number of elements for MATLAB computation.
remember it is actually dot product of (x i +y j) and (i +j) that is giving me x +y that is why it is looking like pw(j)=exp(i*(x(j)+y(j)));
I need to understand some more fundamentals (maths related) before taking up this plotting work. kindly forward me some notes if you have on this topic. your active participation is appreciated. Thank You.
 

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