Need help solving second-order nonlinear differential eq

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order nonlinear differential equation related to the net force acting on an object impacting a granular medium at low velocities. The equation is presented in the context of developing an analytical method for determining soil shear strength parameters in situ.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Peter, a doctoral student, presents a nonlinear differential equation and expresses difficulty in solving it, mentioning a desire for guidance.
  • Peter attempts to simplify the equation using a substitution and the chain rule, but is uncertain about the next steps.
  • Another participant suggests a substitution of variables to transform the original equation into a first-order constant coefficient differential equation, providing a method to solve it.
  • A different participant proposes solving the homogeneous part of the equation first and then using variation of parameters to address the nonhomogeneous equation, recommending external resources for further study.

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Participants present different methods for approaching the problem, indicating multiple competing views on how to solve the differential equation. No consensus is reached on a single solution method.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of the differential equation and the various approaches suggested, but does not resolve the mathematical steps or assumptions involved in the proposed methods.

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Hello,

I'm a doctoral student in civil engineering. In my research I came across a differential equation for the net force acting on an object as it impacts a granular medium at low velocities.

z'' + a[ z' ]^2 + b[ z ] = c
Where a, b, and c are all constants

I believe that this equation will allow for the development of an analytical method for the determination of soil shear strength parameters in situ using rapid and inexpensive testing procedures. Unfortunately, my differential equation skills are horribly rusty, so this problem's solution has been rather ellusive. I've gotten as far as using the chain rule (?) to make the problem first-order, and developed the following:

If u = z' and u' = z'' (or u du/dz = z''), then u(du/dz) + a^2 +b[z] = c

I'm not sure where to go from here (or if I'm even going in the right direction). Textbook examples similar to this problem collapse nicely into an easily solvable problem, but not this one. I would really appreciate any guidance on this problem. Thanks in advance!

--Peter
 
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Sorry, I evidently turned underline on when making that second equation. Here is is again.

If u = z' and u'' = z'' (or u du/dz = z''), then u(du/dz) + a[ u ]^2 + b[ z ] = c
 
Your original DE is ##y'' + ay'^2 + by = c##. Consider the substitution ##w(y) = y'^2##. Then$$
\frac{dw}{dy} = \frac{dw}{dx}\cdot \frac{dx}{dy}= \frac{\frac{dy'^2}{dx}}{\frac{dy}{dx}}=\frac{2y'y''}{y'}=2y''$$so you have ##y''=\frac 1 2 \frac{dw}{dy}## and your DE becomes$$
\frac 1 2 \frac{dw}{dy}+aw(y)+by = c$$This is a first order constant coefficient DE with independent variable ##y##. Solve it for ##w(y)## and then solve the equation ##y'^2 = w(y)## by taking square roots and separation of variables. It should all work, at least in principle. The last integration might be interesting. Good luck.
 
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What you could do is solve the homogeneous equation by finding the characteristic polynomial. After, use variation of parameters to find the solution to the nonhomogeneous equation. I prefer this method myself. Pauls Online Math notes has a good set of notes covering DEs
 

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