First-order nonlinear differential equation

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The discussion revolves around a first-order nonlinear differential equation given by dT/dt=a-bT-Z[1/(1+vt)^2]-uT^4, where a, b, Z, v, and u are constants. The original poster seeks to express T as a function of t, starting from initial conditions t0=0 and T=T0.

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  • Participants discuss various methods for solving the equation, including Bernoulli and Riccati equations. There is uncertainty about the applicability of these methods due to the specific form of the equation. One participant attempts to rearrange the equation and suggests a substitution to simplify it, while another expresses confusion and seeks alternative suggestions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches and questioning the validity of proposed methods. Some guidance has been offered regarding the rearrangement of terms and the use of integration factors, but there is no consensus on a definitive solution or method at this point.

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Participants note the need for clarity in the equation's terms and the challenges posed by its nonlinear nature. There is also an emphasis on the requirement for showing effort before receiving tutorial help, as per forum guidelines.

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Homework Statement
first order non linear equation
Relevant Equations
dT/dt=a-bT-Z[1/(1+vt)^2]-uT^4

a,b,z,v,u are constant
t0=0 , T=T0
Homework Statement: first order non linear equation
Homework Equations: dT/dt=a-bT-Z[1/(1+vt)^2]-uT^4

a,b,z,v,u are constant
t0=0 , T=T0

Hi,
i need find an experession of T as function of t from this first order nonlinear equation:

dT/dt=a-bT-Z[1/(1+vt)^2]-uT^4

a,b,z,v,u are constant
t0=0 , T=T0

i don't know how to solve this equation , tanks for helpers :)
 
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bennyh said:
Homework Statement: first order non linear equation
Homework Equations: dT/dt=a-bT-Z[1/(1+vt)^2]-uT^4

a,b,z,v,u are constant
t0=0 , T=T0

Homework Statement: first order non linear equation
Homework Equations: dT/dt=a-bT-Z[1/(1+vt)^2]-uT^4

a,b,z,v,u are constant
t0=0 , T=T0

Hi,
i need find an experession of T as function of t from this first order nonlinear equation:

dT/dt=a-bT-Z[1/(1+vt)^2]-uT^4

a,b,z,v,u are constant
t0=0 , T=T0

i don't know how to solve this equation , tanks for helpers :)
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thank you for your response , i tried solve it with Bernoulli and Riccati Equations but some how it doesn't look normal to me due to the Riccati equation (that more general) have simple form of ##y'+py=fy^n##
bact to my equation :
##dT/dt-bT=a-Z[1/(1+vt)^2]-uT^4 ##
y=f(x) -> P(x)=b (constant num) and f(x)=-u (constant) and n=4
but i don't know how to treat a-Z[1/(1+vt)^2] in the formula.

need help :)
 
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I have the following suggestions. You have (rearranging terms and where primes on variables indicate differentiation w.r.t time),$$T' + bT=-uT^4 +f'(t) $$ where $$ f'(t) = a- \frac{Z}{(1+vt)^2}$$ Divide both sides of the equation by ##T^4## and rearrange to get,$$T^{-4}(T'-f'(t)) + bT^{-3}=-u$$ Now make the substitution$$v(t)= \frac{-T^{-3}}{3} - f(t)
\\ v'(t)=T^{-4} - f'(t)
\\T^{-3}= -3v(t)-3f(t)
$$We now have, after rearrangement, $$v'(t) -3bv(t)=-u + 3f(t)$$ which is in a form to apply an integration factor as outlined here,http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/Linear.aspx. With,$$p(t)=-3b
\\g(t)=-u + 3f(t)$$ from Paul's above discussion on integration factors we have$$ v(t)=\frac{\int e^{-3bt}(-u +3f(t))dt + C}{e^{-3bt}}
\\T=\frac{1}{(-3v(t) -3f(t))^{\frac{1}{3}}}$$
 
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Please disregard my above post. I was totally wrong. The substitution I suggested is wrong. I feel like a fool and I apologize.
 
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Fred Wright said:
Please disregard my above post. I was totally wrong. The substitution I suggested is wrong. I feel like a fool and I apologize.
thanks god that you wrong cause i don't understand it :) .
Do you have any other suggestion for this equation how to solve it?
 
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