Neutron Production and Capture: Can Neutrons from Deuterium be Used for Fusion?

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The discussion revolves around the potential for neutron production and capture from deuterium for use in fusion reactions. Participants explore the binding energy differences between light and heavy nuclei, the conditions under which neutron capture may be exothermic, and the feasibility of utilizing such reactions for nuclear energy generation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the binding energy for nucleons in light atoms like deuterium is lower than in heavier elements such as iron, suggesting that neutron capture could be exothermic under certain conditions.
  • Others argue that the exothermic nature of the reaction depends on the isotopes involved, specifically whether the light nucleus is on the stable side of the line of stability and the neutron richness of the heavy nucleus.
  • One participant questions why exothermic reactions involving neutron transfer from deuterium to iron-56 are not pursued for nuclear energy, speculating on potential issues with neutron separation efficiency and energy gain.
  • Another participant suggests that generating neutrons in a fission reactor could contribute to exothermic reactions, although they express doubt about the significance of this contribution.
  • Participants discuss the use of neutron generators and devices like the Farnsworth fusor for producing neutrons from deuterium, but express concerns about the low cross-sections and insufficient neutron flux for practical applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and efficiency of neutron production from deuterium for fusion applications, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific isotopes and the unclear efficiency of neutron separation methods discussed. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of neutron capture and its implications for energy generation.

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The binding energy for nucleon in a light atom (like deuterium) is lower than the binding energy for nucleon in a heavier, more stable element like iron.

Suppose you remove the neutron from the light atom, and allow it to conjoin (by neutron capture) with an element that had an atomic number near that of iron. Since the nucleon goes from a state of low binding energy to high binding energy, would this reaction be exothermic?

I think you see where I'm going with this. Any comments?
 
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Smacal1072 said:
The binding energy for nucleon in a light atom (like deuterium) is lower than the binding energy for nucleon in a heavier, more stable element like iron.

Suppose you remove the neutron from the light atom, and allow it to conjoin (by neutron capture) with an element that had an atomic number near that of iron. Since the nucleon goes from a state of low binding energy to high binding energy, would this reaction be exothermic?

This depends on the isotopes. If you take a neutron out of 4He and put it in, say, 70Fe, that will be endothermic, since 70Fe is already very neutron-rich.

In general, the answer to your question depends on (a) which side of the line of stability the light nucleus is on, and (b) which side the heavy nucleus is on.
 
That's a good point. I guess what I'm curious about is: Why don't we pursue some exothermic nuclear reactions (like the transferring a neutron from deuterium to iron 56) in our search for nuclear energy? Is the cross-section too small to separate neutrons from the lower energy nucleus efficiently? Or is the energy gain not enough?
 
Smacal1072 said:
That's a good point. I guess what I'm curious about is: Why don't we pursue some exothermic nuclear reactions (like the transferring a neutron from deuterium to iron 56) in our search for nuclear energy? Is the cross-section too small to separate neutrons from the lower energy nucleus efficiently? Or is the energy gain not enough?

What method do you have in mind to separate the neutrons from the 2H?

You could generate neutrons in a fission reactor. A certain amount of the energy in fission reactors does come out in the form of neutrons, and all of these neutrons end up doing some kind of exothermic reaction, possibly contributing a little to the thermal energy produced, although I wouldn't think it was very much.
 
bcrowell said:
What method do you have in mind to separate the neutrons from the 2H?

I've been reading a little on this - you can use a small neutron generator which accelerates deuterons into a deuterium target. You get a few DD fusion reactions, which produce a neutron. Also, you could use a Farnsworth fusor. They work on a similar principle.

I get the impression though that these reactions have very low cross-sections and wouldn't produce the number of neutrons necessary to generate any meaningful neutron flux. Still, it's pretty tempting. If there were a more efficient way to separate neutrons from deuterium...
 

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