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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of neutronium, its representation on the periodic table, and the associated controversies regarding its properties and classification. Participants express concerns about misinformation and the need for expert contributions to clarify these issues.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express frustration over disputes and misinformation regarding neutronium, including incorrect equations and terminology.
  • Questions are raised about the chemical symbol for neutronium, its position on the periodic table, and the number of electrons in its valence shell.
  • There is a suggestion to consider alternative periodic tables, such as the "Chemical Galaxy" periodic table.
  • One participant describes neutronium as a hypothetical state of matter that exists under extreme gravity, consisting mainly of neutrons without electrons.
  • Another participant challenges the notion that electrons are completely absent, suggesting they might be "crushed into existence" in neutronium.
  • Discussion includes the implications of including neutronium and other hypothetical states of matter on the periodic table, raising questions about the placement of quarks.
  • There are references to external sources that are deemed questionable, such as personal websites and non-scientific articles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach consensus on the classification and properties of neutronium, with multiple competing views and ongoing debates about its representation and the validity of various sources.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the hypothetical nature of neutronium and the lack of established definitions or consensus on its properties and classification within the context of the periodic table.

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Some of the things they are arguing about are:
What chemical symbol does neutronium have on the periodic table?
How many electrons are in its valance shell?
Where is its position on the periodic table?
Should we use the "Chemical Galaxy" periodic table? (have you heard of this?)
Should we call it "nilnilnilnilium?"

People are citing sources like "Slate" (http://slate.com) and people's personal Yahoo and MSN websites.
 
'Neutronium' is a hypothetical state of matter that can only exist [by any known physics] under the influence of extreme gravity - like in a neutron star. It is not an element, it has no electrons [they are crushed out of existence], it's just a messy smear of elementary particles [mostly neutrons] that are forced to coexist in unnaturally cramped quarters.
 
Chronos said:
it has no electrons [they are crushed out of existence]
Actually, if you think about it, they (electrons) are chrushed into its existence...:confused:

But, yes, I agree with your whole comment. The periodic table was "designed" to show the elements and to show electron configurations to help understand how the elements can combine, usually at the outer (lowest energy state) shell, with other elements to form the various compounds.

As an example, someone should go find a graphic showing a water molecule; it isn't just one H2O, it is several sharing electron shells with an actual volumn of "empty" in the center. This is why you can mix one exact liter of water with one exact liter of (pure) alcohol and the final measurement will always be less than two liters. The alcohol molecules actually fit inside the water molecules...:eek:

If all states of matter were to have a place on the periodic table, including hypothetical Neutronium as element "zero", then where would Quarks go?? As elements +1/3, +2/3, -1/3 and -2/3 ?? Probably not.


EDIT: No, I didn't forget fission, where heavy elements uncombine to form lighter elements, such as vaporized Japanese buildings.
OOPS! Was I wrong on the shell energy state?...:confused:
 
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