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The discussion centers around the announcement of a new book titled "Algebraic Quantum Physics" by A. Neumaier and D. Westra, focusing on the algebraic approach to quantum mechanics. Participants explore the book's content, the writing process, and the implications of using algebraic methods in quantum physics, including its foundations and applications.

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  • Some participants express congratulations and acknowledge the challenges of writing and publishing a book.
  • Details about the writing process are shared, including the timeline from the first draft in 2008 to the completion of the first volume in 2024.
  • One participant highlights the book's dual perspective, combining mathematical rigor with physical motivation.
  • Questions are raised regarding the key differences and benefits of the algebraic approach to quantum physics, including the organization of material through symmetry, the emphasis on conceptual understanding over computational techniques, and the use of density operators instead of wave functions.
  • Participants note that the algebraic approach is particularly relevant to quantum information theory and offers new insights into the measurement problem.

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Participants generally agree on the significance of the book and the challenges of its creation. However, there are varying perspectives on the implications and advantages of the algebraic approach to quantum physics, indicating that multiple views remain on this topic.

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Some limitations in the discussion include the lack of detailed exploration of the algebraic approach's implications and the potential dependence on specific definitions of terms used in quantum mechanics.

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The first volume of my treatise on algebraic quantum physics with Dennis Westra is finally out!
I am happy to announce my book
It features a mathematically rigorous but still physically lucid account of quantum mechanics from the point of view of symmetries, including its foundations.

The book is scheduled to appear in paper form on October 7, 2024. Already now, Google books offers a number of free pages, including among others the table of contents and the introductory chapter with an overview over the whole book.
 
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Congratulations!

Writing books, editing books, and proofreading them is hard.

How did you come to write this book? and how long did it take to write, and then get it published?
 
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Congrats! Dennis and I know each other from our time in Groningen. "Mathematically rigorous" sounds a lot like him 😋 I hope it will reach a lot of students and researchers!
 
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jedishrfu said:
Congratulations!

Writing books, editing books, and proofreading them is hard.

How did you come to write this book? and how long did it take to write, and then get it published?
Some of this is described in the Preface (visible in Google books). We had a first draft in 2008 (online, much very different from the final version), got in 2017 a contract to publish a revised version. This resulted in a split into two volumes. Finally, we finished the first volume this year. Rough total work load was around 4 hours per written page. A waste of time unless you like to write....
Volume 2 is due in 1 1/2 years, about 75% finished (but only little in final form).
 
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A. Neumaier said:
A. Neumaier and D. Westra, Algebraic Quantum Physics, Vol. 1: Quantum mechanics via Lie algebras, de Gruyter, Berlin 2024.

I love this part from the "About this book" section:
Written by a mathematician and a physicist, this book is (like a math book) about precise concepts and exact results in classical mechanics and quantum mechanics, but motivated and discussed (like a physics book) in terms of their physical meaning.
 
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A. Neumaier said:
TL;DR Summary: The first volume of my treatise on algebraic quantum physics with Dennis Westra is finally out!

I am happy to announce my book
It features a mathematically rigorous but still physically lucid account of quantum mechanics from the point of view of symmetries, including its foundations.

The book is scheduled to appear in paper form on October 7, 2024. Already now, Google books offers a number of free pages, including among others the table of contents and the introductory chapter with an overview over the whole book.
Can you say something about the key differences and benefits of the algebraic approach to quantum physics?
 
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Can you say something about the key differences and benefits of the algebraic approach to quantum physics?
1. The use of symmetry (in the form of Lie algebras and Lie groups) organizes the vast material on quantum physics into a form that emphasizes the quantum-classical correspondence.

2. Emphasis is on conceptual understanding rather than on computational techniques. The latter are often simpler in the usual analytic treatment, especially in simple (e.g., exactly solvable) situations and in cases where no high accuracy is required. But this changes once advanced problems must be treated and group theory becomes essential.

3. One works very little with wave functions, which only describe pure states, whereas most realistic systems are in a mixed state (due to temperature and other reasons). Instead, states are described by density operators, which is both more realistic and makes the quantum world look much more like the classical world. For example, density operators have classical (stochastic) limits, while wave functions have no classical analogue.

4. The algebraic approach is adapted to quantum information theory, where algebraic aspects are dominant. As an unexpected consequence, the measurement problem appears in a completely new light.

Reading Chapter 1 (an overview chapter, almost without formulas, available in the Google book link of #1) may give additional aspects.
 
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