New Horizons Sees First Features on Pluto

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the recent images of Pluto captured by the New Horizons space probe, focusing on the surface features observed and comparisons with previous Hubble Space Telescope (HST) images. Participants explore the implications of these findings, including the concept of tidal locking and the resolution of the images.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the new images from New Horizons show surface features on Pluto for the first time, while others argue that Hubble had previously shown such features.
  • There is a discussion about the apparent tidal locking of Pluto, with some participants suggesting that this is observable in the new images.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the resolution of New Horizons images compared to HST, suggesting that the latter may still have superior detail.
  • Another participant mentions that the Hubble image is a computer-generated model based on multiple lower-quality images, which raises questions about the accuracy of comparisons.
  • There is speculation about the timing of future images and their expected resolution, with some participants expressing anticipation for upcoming data.
  • Participants share links to resources that provide additional context about the mapping of Pluto's surface and the history of HST images.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the superiority of New Horizons images versus HST images, with multiple competing views remaining regarding the resolution and clarity of the images.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of image resolution and the methods used to generate HST images, which may affect the comparison with New Horizons data.

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From here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astr...sees_surface_features_for_the_first_time.html

"At a press conference on Wednesday astronomers working on the New Horizons space probe revealed new images that show surface features on Pluto for the first time!"

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Wow. Not much detail here yet but aren't we seeing the tidal lock of Pluto in action in this movie ? The more I look at it the more obvious it seems.
 
It does sort of look like it. I hadn't noticed before.
 
Actually, great as these images are, their title seems overstated, Hubble showed surface features before. I guess they mean "first time for New Horizon".
 
I believe that is the intended message. :wink:

Interestingly, New Horizons' images are now more detailed than the HST's.
 
Hmm not quite yet from what I see, I don't think they beat that yet though it's only a matter of time :

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wabbit said:
Wow. Not much detail here yet but aren't we seeing the tidal lock of Pluto in action in this movie ? The more I look at it the more obvious it seems.
The rotation axis is a bit tilted against the view (see the changing apparent distance between Pluto and Charon), so we still see something new.
Not much to see. One area looks darker, in agreement with the reconstruction from Hubble images. Anyway, we'll see more in two months.
 
Oh two months ? I was kinda hoping for something earlier.. but I suppose you can't force celestial mechanics to play by the rules of live TV shows : )

Yes I noticed the elliptical apparent orbit, was trying to eyeball the focii but to no avail I'm afraid. I convinced myself it was centered but this may as well be self delusion. It does look so though with a major axis about 25 % longer than minor ?
 
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wabbit said:
Hmm not quite yet from what I see, I don't think they beat that yet though it's only a matter of time :

The article is the one claiming that the resolution is higher. Plus I think your image is derived from a number of much lower quality images. I know for a fact that the HST can't see Pluto anywhere close to the resolution shown in the image.
 
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Right they must mean better optical resolution.
Found something that looks like a single image from HST, perhaps not the best one but it isn't close
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The Hubble "image" is a computer-generated model to fit several images, right.

wabbit said:
Oh two months ? I was kinda hoping for something earlier.
Well, Pluto diameter in pixels is roughly inversely proportional to the time to fly-by, which is ~2.5 months away. In 1 month we get images with roughly twice the resolution. That will look something like the model from Hubble but for every image, which allows to make better composite images.
 
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In the meantime they might also work the same magic as HST to do a nice composite - not much point maybe but it would be fun : )
 
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Drakkith said:
See here, Wabbit: http://www.boulder.swri.edu/~buie/pluto/mapstory.html
It tells the story of how the surface maps of Pluto were made and has a series of images from the HST.
Great, thanks !

Edit. Impressive processing, the single images look more or less similar the the NH pictures.
 

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