Medical New Surgeon General report on smoking

  1. Greg Bernhardt

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    Nothing surprising, but worth repeating. 480k Americans die each year from smoking related illness. Stop smoking!

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  3. Evo

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    When my girls were young I let them take puffs of cigarettes, hurt like hell. I told them that putting anything on fire into your mouth and inhaling the smoke was crazy, they agreed. They never smoked, that convinced them. Best way is to get them when they're young and show them how stupid and painful it is.

    That's what my mother did when I was 12 and curios, she let me inhale a cigarette. Thought I was going to die it hurt so much, along with a video on tv showing cilia dying, scared the life out of me.
  4. strangerep

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    Hah, I smoked a whole pack when I was around 12 (without parental permission -- that was back in the day when unscrupulous shop keepers would sell cigarettes to anyone). Anyway, I got really sick, and that convinced me I could live without it.

    Later, in my first job, the employer handed out packs of cigarettes as part of the "treats" at the Xmas party, :eek:, so I thought "oh well, they're free so I'll smoke a few of mine". But the first one was so horrible that I gave the rest away to the existing addicts. It all seems like a ridiculously surreal movie now.
  5. Ryan_m_b

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    Not sure what the situation is like in the states but in the UK e-cigarettes are gaining popularity astonishingly fast. At the start of 2013 most people hadn't heard of them but by the end you now regularly see them in pubs and other places. Hopefully a sign that smoking numbers will drop even faster.
  6. lisab

    lisab 3,188
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    Yes, they are extremely popular among the hipster crowd where I live.

    While they don't have the smoke that is so damaging to lungs, they still have nicotine, which is addictive.

    The sentence above is enough to keep me away from them, but it's used as a selling point by e-cig sellers.
  7. The nicotine in e-cigarettes can still give you lung cancer.
  8. Ryan_m_b

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    Statements like this should be clarified. Whilst there are some animal studies suggesting nicotine is a carcinogen it isn't currently regarded as one on its own.
  9. Pythagorean

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    The harmful part of smoking cigarettes is benzene, I believe. Which is eliminated with e-cigarettes. No idea what the effects of glycerin are though.

    edit: Hmm, maybe it's actually Benzo(a)pyrene.
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2014
  10. Monique

    Monique 4,445
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    I don't think the health effects of e-cigarettes (or vaporized nicotine) have been shown.
  11. Evo

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    I believe that you are right, the latest I've seen said that long term effects are not yet known, but that they contain much less pollutants than real cigarettes, so it's a definite improvement.
  12. dlgoff

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  13. AlephZero

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    There have been some reports about "passive e-smoking" in the UK news recently - for example whether they should be included in the ban on smoking at work and in enclosed public places. Also they are not covered by the age restrictions on buying tobacco.

    The British Medical Association has referenced an FDA report finding 1% diethylene glycol (toxic) in one cartridge of a leading brand, tobacco-specific nitrosamines (carcinogenic) in half the samples analyzed, plus tobacco-specific impurities considered harmful in the majority of samples.
  14. I have been wondering when the big tobacco companies will jump full force into the E cigarette market. It seems that they have already started.

    It looks like nothing is safe.

    Even an E cigarette device can start a fire if the battery is overcharged.

    If big tobacco is in the E cigarette business I don't think that they will ever be banned. Four former Marlboro men have died from smoking related causes and people are still puffing.,0,5415405.story#axzz2sh64rAyz

    At this point I would rather ride in a vehicle with someone who is smoking an E cigarette.
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2014
  15. Inhaling the concentrated fumes from a smoldering weed is harmful?? Who would have thought?
    I always thought those messages on the side of the cigarette packs were interesting. They are placed there on the theory that there exists at least one person who is smart enough to read, but not smart enough to already know it must be harmful.
  16. Pythagorean

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    In Canada, they put pictures of the actual damage on real (I think) organs on the biggest surface of the cigarette box.

    edit: here we are, delicious!

    Last edited: Feb 11, 2014
  17. There has been e-smokers whom have stepped forward in protest of the mislabeling, there has been medical issues after people e-smoking for 1 to 2 years.
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