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New Zealand Students May Text-Speak in Exams!

  1. Nov 11, 2006 #1

    ZapperZ

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    Am I the only one who thinks that this is a horrible idea? Honestly now, how low do we have to keep lowering the standards of everything here?

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  3. Nov 11, 2006 #2
    Do you mean here on Earth? :rofl: :rofl: At least I do not feel so bad about America's standards getting lower, but now there's no where to run.
     
  4. Nov 11, 2006 #3

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    :surprised :yuck: This IS a horrible idea!

    The objective in education is to ascend to the highest standards, not to settle/descend to the lowest common form. :rolleyes:
     
  5. Nov 11, 2006 #4

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    That is a horrible idea. How can we expect students to mature and function effectively in later life if they cannot express themselves effectively in real English in school? It's not jarring to see "IMO" instead of "in my opinion" on a message board, but I would penalize a student who wrote that in an essay or on a test. The number of people who post here and don't know the difference between your and you're, there and their, and its and it's is disturbing. The teacher won't know if the student understands the usage of "your" and "you're" if (s)he can simply substitute "ur". The article clearly states that such substitutions will not be allowed in English exams, but come on! Every course is a chance for cross-discipline learning, and students should be required to demonstrate the full range of their abilities (including spelling, punctuation, grammar) in every class, even if they are not being graded on those skills in their Biology or History tests, for instance.
     
  6. Nov 11, 2006 #5

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    You think that's bad. I've seen high teachers here who let students text each other during the exam!!!
     
  7. Nov 11, 2006 #6

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    That is AWFUL!!! It also gives the message that English, or generally, written communications skills, are not important for subjects OTHER than English. If they get accustomed to that, then they will be in for a BIG shock when they get to university courses that expect them to write properly for ALL their assignments. Great, now I'm probably going to have to start adding a statement on syllabi that all assignments and exams must be written in standard English or will not be graded so that I can just hand it back with a big, fat 0 when they try writing it in text speak.
     
  8. Nov 11, 2006 #7
    u guyz r lik totallyl wrng, this iz a gr8 idea.
     
  9. Nov 11, 2006 #8

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    u tly mspeled al tha wrdz in ur pst!
     
  10. Nov 11, 2006 #9
    I tried digging an article up, but couldn't find it. A few years ago, there was some serious debate about introducing "street english" into the public schools in California. The idea was apparently to allow students to learn the material without forcing them to first learn English.

    Conservative commentators had a great time with that one, as you can imagine. Sample exchange: "What did I just say to you? [after reading a sample of the language to be allowed]"

    "You just said, 'Don't ever hire me.'"

    I can probably get someone else to dig it up if anyone really needs to see it.

    [edited for typos]
     
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  11. Nov 11, 2006 #10

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    Was that the discussion about "Ebonics" as a language? :yuck:

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    We need to be very precise in our use of technical language - so as not to compromise economics and reliability, nor health and safey. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Nov 11, 2006 #11
    Thank you, that was the keyword I was looking for.

    Also, you should note there was an earlier attempt to instruct the teachers (not the students) in 'Ebonics', so they could understand better what was going an around them. That was years ago. The more recent effort was to teach and test in the 'language'.

    MSNBC: Does Ebonics belong in the curriculum?
    There's probably other articles with more specifics on that proposal, but that's the article I recalled.
     
  13. Nov 11, 2006 #12
    Ebonics is still being used by students whether teachers approve of it or not. More recently we have added Spanglish, good god how would those look in text speak?

    I guess that we could presume that the letters M and F would appear quite frequently in Ebonics text speak.:yuck:
     
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  15. Nov 11, 2006 #14

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    Is that Scottish? :rofl:

    When did LOL turn into lolz anyway? LOL is already an abbreviation, so I really have no idea what the z is supposed to do for it, but I see it a lot now. Then again, way back when I first started exploring chat rooms, I thought I was talking to someone British when they wrote "LOL." I just read it as a word, not an abbreviation, and for some reason, that just sounded British to me. :rofl:
     
  16. Nov 11, 2006 #15

    Astronuc

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    Nah, looks more Welshish! :rofl:
     
  17. Nov 11, 2006 #16

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    :rofl: Probably needs a few more Ls and Ws to be Welsh, but it does seem to have the right consonant to vowel ratio. :rofl:
     
  18. Nov 11, 2006 #17
    'Ridiculous' is the only word for it.
     
  19. Nov 12, 2006 #18

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    It is supposed to pluralize isn't it? But there are never rules
    Same thing with me, but I still think "lol," as the word would be instead of saying each letter individually. Like Whykipedia. Who said it was weekypedia? I'm a whykipediahead and people look at me funny when I use weeky and whyky interchangeably.
     
  20. Nov 12, 2006 #19
    I say lol in my head as one word... and damnit someone just started smoking outside and my window was open... now my room smells like smoke :angry:

    lolz is a plural form of lol... because lols isn't cool enough

    lawl is another way of saying lol...


    haha, I love (when I say love, I really mean hate, or annoyed by) it when I hear someone say "rofl" in a conversation.

    also, I say faq as one word, but some people say it as eff aye que? weird.... Whenever I say "look at the faq", some people think im saying an alternate to the f word.... pfft....

    SHE's a MANIAC MANIAC, on the flooor, and she's dancin like she's never danced befooororeee

    EDIT: it can cut you like a knife!
     
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  21. Nov 12, 2006 #20

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    But, but, but...it's a phrase consisting of a verb (laughing; well, technically, "am laughing" as in "I am laughing") and adverb (out loud), usually referring to a singular person (the one typing it), so how do you make it a plural at all? Even if it was referring to a plural subject (many people), it's still "laughing out loud" not "laughing out louds" or "laughings out loud." See, this is the problem, not only is the spelling atrocious, the grammar is too! :eek: I'm going to go back to banging my head on the desk now.
     
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