Newbie to physics, a composer, considering comp sci as career

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The discussion revolves around a newcomer to physics who is also a musician and composer, exploring the intersection of sound, waves, and potential career paths in computer science. The conversation includes considerations of educational pathways in physics and mathematics, as well as the challenges of pursuing a career in programming without a formal degree.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses a newfound interest in math and a desire to study physics, particularly in relation to sound and waves.
  • Some participants suggest that courses in physics could enhance understanding of sound as it relates to musical instruments and performance environments.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of mathematics for studying physics and computer science, with some participants emphasizing the need for foundational math courses.
  • The original poster questions whether to focus on mechanics before delving into sound wave properties and seeks recommendations for resources on sound.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of pursuing a computer science career without a degree, with varying opinions on the challenges involved.
  • Participants discuss the potential impact of software for musical notation on the compositional process, noting both its benefits and limitations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of mathematics for both physics and computer science. However, there is no consensus on the challenges of entering a programming career without a degree, as opinions vary on the level of difficulty and the necessity of formal education.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for a solid mathematics background but do not specify which courses are essential. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the best approach to learning about sound in relation to mechanics.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the connections between music, sound, physics, and computer science, particularly those considering a transition into these fields from a non-traditional background.

Product of Motion
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Hello fellow explorers in all regards.

A bit of background on myself.
I am first and foremost a musician and in particular a composer. I went to college at 18 studying music at an art school in the united states. Long story short, I spent a lost of time practing guitar and composing, but not at all studying classical technique/theory (oops, turns out that stuff is actually extremely game changing. However, I actually feel my perhaps more intuitive writing style at that period was instrumental {pun intended} in my evolution as a composer and I now embrace analysis in full, but there is always an ebb and flow of conscious vs unconscious and what is the difference betwixt planning an outline and fleshing it out...almost blurred sometimes it seems...I digress).

Now, onto something more relevant to this forum. In the past 3 years I discovered that I don't actually hate math and it actually became my favorite academic subject. However, I felt perhaps that pure mathematics was too abstract and bound in thought, and decided I would like to pursue more of a focus in physics because it appeals more to the senses.

I am quite interested in learning more about sound and waves, and curious about the link between chemistry and physics in regard to sound. What exactly do chemists discover that physicists then use to understand sound better and so on.

Beyond, all this I am seriously considering computer science/programming as a future career as it seems like it would allow for both intelligent and creative problem solving if that makes sense.
 
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Tough change to consider. Nice basic goals. Courses in Physics, eventually, may help you regarding understanding sound, such as from and within different musical instruments; and also in relation to environments where music may be played or performed; places such as theatres. Coursework in Computer Science and Programming would not go wasted either. Useful very much in Physics as well as in all Sciences. You must already be aware of software for writing musical notation. You must already be aware of technologies which may let musicians play, interfaced to a computer and some software may convert that which is expressed into musical notation. You may already be ware of "digital pianos".

You will need to go through a big bunch of Mathematics (courses) which you did not previously plan to; but which you would need for the study of Physics and Computer Science.
 
Mmm well not a change really, but I don't see myself ever making a living off my music and even if given the opportunity I'm not sure I would be able to make the sacrifices necessary. For example, I was in a band and we toured (small low key, we set up the shows) two summers back to back and if anything I would much rather be a film and or game composer, because honestly touring is a tough tough gig that can really wear you down and I only had a glimpse, simply not for me atleast not full time I believe.

symbolipoint said:
Courses in Physics, eventually, may help you regarding understanding sound, such as from and within different musical instruments;

Do you have any good book recommendations or lecture series for sound in particular? Should I learn more mechanics first or do you think one could jump into learning about things like timbre and how sound waves move and propagate and learn the mechanics as you go?

symbolipoint said:
You must already be aware of software for writing musical notation.

Umm yes indeed, totally augmented and changed the way that I write in a profound way. Okay wow, thanks I feel pretty inspired to learn more about the way notion software works...definitely there are some bugs and glitches in the one that I use unfortunately, but none the less does the trick so to speak.How challenging do you think it is to get a comp. sci/programming career without a degree? I'm unsure about going through with that, but perhaps it is too important.
 
Other members may be able to respond to most of what you replied, but this part here I could say something:
Product of Motion said:
How challenging do you think it is to get a comp. sci/programming career without a degree? I'm unsure about going through with that, but perhaps it is too important.
Again I say, you need to build up your Mathematics coursework, in case you have not done so already, so you would be able to handle the (Physics and) Computer Sciences courses which you would/could choose. How challenging, either very challenging or extremely challenging. I do not say "impossible" because I do not thoroughly know your situation and not know how much time you have. "Without a degree"? Choose your courses from the point of view of trying to earn a degree, but not necessarily do as much courses as an undegrad student would take. Computer Science graduates, or even people who have similar skill and knowledge but without degree, might advise you better on selection of courses.
 
Thanks, I appreciate your input. I think that's a good point to consider about not taking too large of a class load.
 

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