Nitric Acid: Understanding its Oxidizing Properties on Dilution

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The discussion revolves around the oxidizing properties of nitric acid and how these properties are affected by dilution. Participants explore the relationship between the concentration of nitric acid, the behavior of H+ ions, and the oxidation states of nitrogen in nitrate ions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that dilution increases the volume over which H+ ions are dispersed, potentially reducing the oxidizing nature of nitric acid.
  • There is confusion regarding the role of H+ ions, with some questioning how they can be associated with both reducing and oxidizing properties.
  • Participants discuss the oxidation state of nitrogen in the nitrate ion, with some noting that nitrogen has a +5 oxidation state in nitrate, which is significantly higher than its usual -3 state.
  • One participant asserts that the oxidative property of nitric acid derives from the nitrate ion, and that H+ does not counteract this property.
  • Another participant argues that any atom at a high oxidation state, such as nitrogen in nitrate, can act as an oxidant, and that dilution does not change this fundamental property but may slow down the reaction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between H+ ions and the oxidizing properties of nitric acid, with no consensus reached on the implications of dilution on these properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the interactions between H+ ions and the oxidizing nature of nitric acid, indicating that assumptions about these relationships may vary. The discussion also touches on the oxidation states of nitrogen, which may influence interpretations of oxidizing behavior.

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Why does oxidizing nature of nitric acid gets reduced on dilution?
 
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When the acid is diluted, the volume over which H+ ions disperse get a larger volume, hence per unit volume, the oxidizing nature decreases
 
H+ ions are responsible for reducing nature, so why oxidizing nature decreases?
 
ritwik06 said:
Why does oxidizing nature of nitric acid gets reduced on dilution?

What do you mean by 'oxidizing nature'? Rate of oxidation?
 
Do you mean why is a subastance being oxidized the reducing agent?
 
chemisttree said:
What do you mean by 'oxidizing nature'? Rate of oxidation?

Stevedye56 said:
Do you mean why is a subastance being oxidized the reducing agent?

I am sorry! I got it. Thanks a lot to all of you!
 
ritwik06 said:
I am sorry! I got it. Thanks a lot to all of you!

I was muddled. Nitric acid dissociates to give H+ ions. right? but additon of H+ to something ould lead to reduction. But nitric acid is actually an oxidizing agent. how come?
 
What is the oxidation # for nitrogen in the nitrate ion? Is it unusual?
 
chemisttree said:
What is the oxidation # for nitrogen in the nitrate ion? Is it unusual?

I don't know. I can't make out what you are talking about.
 
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Oxygen usually has an oxidation number (I'll call it a 'charge') of -2. There are three of them (oxygens in nitrate) and there is one negative charge left over. What is the charge on nitrogen required to balance all but one of these negative charges?

Nitrogen usually has an oxidation number of -3...
 
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ritwik06 said:
H+ ions are responsible for reducing nature, so why oxidizing nature decreases?
no, H+ itself gets reduced while the other substance loses e- and gets oxidized
. As [itex]$ HNO_3 $[/itex] is diluted, it loses oxidizing tendency and behaves more as an acid.
 
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chemisttree said:
Oxygen usually has an oxidation number (I'll call it a 'charge') of -2. There are three of them (oxygens in nitrate) and there is one negative charge left over. What is the charge on nitrogen required to balance all but one of these negative charges?

Nitrogen usually has an oxidation number of -3...

The charge of Nitrogen should be +5. Yes, nitride ion has charge -3. So what do I deduce from this?
 
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The oxidative property of nitric acid comes from the nitrate ion. The proton doesn't counteract this at all. I don't know of any reactions where H+ is a reducing agent or where it could lead to reduction.
 
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chemisttree said:
The oxidative property of nitric acid comes from the nitrate ion. The proton doesn't counteract this at all. I don't know of any reactions where H+ is a reducing agent or where it could lead to reduction.

I think you are true, the oxidation property comes from the nitrate ion. And moreover we arent talking about H+ ions' "reducing" property.

But sir, please do tell me that when nitrogen in nitrate has oxidation # +5, then how does it effect the oxidizing nature?
 
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ritwik06 said:
...But sir, please do tell me that when nitrogen in nitrate has oxidation # +5, then how does it effect the oxidizing nature?

Any atom at a high oxidation state can behave as an oxidant. Normally nitrogen has a -3 oxidation state. In nitrate it is +5. Thats EIGHT ELECTRONS higher than it normally occurs. Any atom that is capable of lowering its oxidation state by eight electrons is DEFINITELY an oxidant. In gunpowder, KNO3 is the oxidant. The nitrogen-containing product is N2. That is a 5 electron change which is still a pretty stout oxidation.

Dilution doesn't change that. It slows it down.
 

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